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These are the main groups of Paces,
according to the DNA evidence

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  1. Persons related to or descended from John Pace of Middlesex County, VA.
    (immediately below) - click here
  2. EBER PACE line - son Charles Perry Pace (b 1903 OK, d 1968 CA).

  3. Descendents of Richard, James, and John Pace of North Carolina (John b. 1732), first believed to be the sons of "Richard Pace II", grandson of Richard of Jamestown.

    Recent discussion on Pace mailing list suggests the above Richard may be the son of a George Pace (Richard>George>"Richard II">George).

    DNA and other evidence has divided this line into  two sub-groups, 3a and 3b.   DNA evidence and analysis by FTDNA indicate that group 3b and 3a have a common ancestor within the time span for Richard of Jamestown.  

    Group 3a has the following sub groups
    (with some individuals not matching a group)

    Group 3b has the following sub groups
    (again with some individuals not matching a group)

  4. Descendents of Frederick Pace of ?Wales
    (Note: Wales is used only as an identifier; this origin is not verified)
  5. PACES of unsure or unmatching lineage.
  6. UK PACES,
    born in the United Kingdom or descended from more recent immigrants.

  7. PIERCE-PACE Coincidence.
  8. GERMAN Paces,
    who changed their name from Pees to Pace after arriving in the US.
  9. ITALIAN Paces. The Pace name seems to have originated independently in England and Italy.
  10. GROUP 3b
  11. WILLIAM PACE-RUTH LAMBERT Sub Group
  12. WILLIAM PACE-SICELY WALKER Line
  13. JOHN PACE-SARAH BURGH Line
  14. PACE-HENDRIX of Giles Co TN & Benton Co AR
  15. PACE-Wake Co, NC
  16. PACE Louisa Co. VA
  17. HARDY PACE of Vinings, Georgia-Interesting research findings

Donors who cited
John of Middlesex as ancestor

Kit #6281 J-Jr - John,John,William

  • 0. Donor
  • 1. Father
  • 2. Grandfather

  • 3. JOHN PACE
      b Oct 1816 Marshall Co Kentucky
      d 13 July 1890 Salem, Dent Co. MO
    + MARY (Polly) CORNWELL

  • 4. JOEL PACE
      b 1790 d 29 Sept 1843
    + SALLY COPE
    Joel Pace married Sally Cope in Muhlenberg Co, KY on 9/22/1814 and died in 1839 in Marshall Co - which was Calloway Co until 1842 per Ruth Keys Clark - (from email in Archives - CLICK HERE)

  • 5. SPENCER PACE
      b ca 1763- Prob. Amelia Co.VA
      d 10 July 1849 - Marshall Co. Kentucky
    + MARY HAYMES
    Spencer born 1770 in Pittsylvania Co. Va and Langston born 1758 his birth date is listed as 8 Oct 1770 in Amelia Co, Va.
  • 6. WILLIAM PACE
      b ca. 1724 Prob. Middlesex Co Virginia
      d 1799 Henry Co.VA
    + SUSANNA WEST

  • 7. JOHN PACE Jr. 1696-1734
      b ca. 1696 d 25 Nov.1734
    + ELIZABETH MONTAGUE

  • 8. JOHN PACE Sr.
      of Middlesex County Virginia
    + ELIZABETH ? NEWSOME ?

1 JOHN PACE of Middlesex ? - 1720
+ ELIZABETH ? NEWSOME ?

2 JOHN PACE Jr. 1696-1734 (b ca. 1696 d 25 Nov.1734)
+ ELIZABETH MONTAGUE

3 WILLIAM PACE
b ca. 1724 Prob. Middlesex Co Virginia
d 1799 Henry Co.VA
+ SUSANNA WEST

4 SPENCER PACE
b ca 1763- Prob. Amelia Co.VA
d 10 July 1849 - Marshall Co. Kentucky
+ MARY HAYMES

    Spencer born 1770 in Pittsylvania Co. Va and Langston born 1758 his birth date is listed as 8 Oct 1770 in Amelia Co, Va.
5 JOEL PACE b 1790 d 29 Sept 1843
+ SALLY COPE
    Joel Pace married Sally Cope in Muhlenberg Co, KY on 9/22/1814 and died in 1839 in Marshall Co - which was Calloway Co until 1842 per Ruth Keys Clark -
    (from email in Archives - CLICK HERE)

6 JOHN PACE
b Oct 1816 Marshall Co Kentucky
d 13 July 1890 Salem, Dent Co. MO
+ MARY (Polly) CORNWELL

NOTE:
This is a donor who seems to have a firm set of records leading to John of Middlesex, but the DNA says he is not related, nor does he match with any other Pace in the study.



Kit #6501 J-Jr - John,John,William

  • 0 Donor
  • 1 Father
  • 2 Grandfather

  • 3 THOMAS NUNN PACE
      b. 12-5-1801
      d 5-4-1893
    + DOSIA WILLIAMS

  • 4 WILLIAM INGRAM PACE
      b. 7-8-1773
      d. 12-18-1843
    + SALLY NUNN

  • 5 (Captain) JOHN PACE
      b. 5-28-1751
      d. 4-11-1797
    + ELIZABETH NUNN

  • 6 WILLIAM PACE 1724-1750
    + SUSANNA WEST

  • 7 JOHN PACE Jr
      b. 1696
      d. 1734
    + ELIZABETH MONTAGUE

  • 8 JOHN PACE of Middlesex ? - 1720
    + ELIZABETH ? NEWSOME ?

Comment:
Although the two individuals above cite common ancestry from William Pace on back - DNA results indicate that they are NOT related.

An interesting read in Pace Archives by a descendant of Nancy Gatewood Pace, daughter of Captain John Pace & Elizabeth Nunn in above lineage.


1 JOHN PACE of Middlesex ? - 1720
+ ELIZABETH ? NEWSOME ?

2 JOHN PACE Jr. 1696-1734 (b ca. 1696 d 25 Nov.1734)
+ ELIZABETH MONTAGUE

3 WILLIAM PACE
.....b ca. 1724 Prob. Middlesex Co Virginia
.....d 1799 Henry Co.VA
+ SUSANNA WEST

4 (Captain) JOHN PACE
.....b. 5-28-1751
.....d. 4-11-1797
+ ELIZABETH NUNN



LOUISA Co. VA
PACE - ARCHIVE EMAILS - This Line



Kit #6379 J-Jo - John,Joseph,John

Larry&Jo Pace
Great granddaughter of
EDWARD PACE 1790–1874
Shirley (Pace) Newfarmer - has 1907 letter written by
EDWARD ALEXANDER PACE 1847–1925
  • oldest son of CHARLES W. (b.1827).
  • EDWARD A. was raised in the home of his grandfather
    EDWARD PACE above (b.1790), in Orange County Indiana.
  • EDWARD A. became a lawyer
    and lived most of his adult life in Taylor County Iowa
  • 6 WILLIAM HENRY PACE 1745-1815
    served in GEORGE WASHINGTON's GUARDS
    + MARY WININGER

READ FAMILY LETTER (on Roy Johnson's site) - in collection of Shirley (Pace) Newfarmer
great granddaughter of Edward Pace 1790–1874


    He - (WILLIAM HENRY PACE 1745-1815) - had six sons
    • The youngest was named EDWARD,
      who was my Grandfather (writes E.H. Pace in 1907)
    • The names of his brothers were HENRY, THOMAS, WILLIAM, ELISH, GEORGE

  • 7 JOHN H. PACE 1721/22-1790
    + SUSANNA HOUCHINS

  • 8 JOSEPH PACE 1697-1765
    + ANN BASFORD

  • 9 JOHN PACE (of Middlesex) 1665-1720/21
    + ELIZABETH ? NEWSOME?
Edward "Neddie" Pace
2nd wife - Susannah Foster
  • Richard Foster Pace b. Aug. 19, 1821
  • William Alexander Pace b. May 6, 1823

Note:- common ancestry to WILLIAM HENRY PACE with 35533 below.

See related 1907 letter on Roy Johnson's site
from descendent EDWARD PACE 1837-1925.


Kit #35533 John,Joseph,John


Kit 175440

Explanation:
KY split off from VA in June 1792 so he was technically born in VA but would probably say he was born in KY since he was born in the part of VA that became KY. He was less that a year old when the split came so would remember KY as his home.

Lineage to John of M not known but match is exact for this group.


The ABOVE and BELOW lineages go back to
JOSEPH GRIFFIN PACE b: Nov. 30, 1832
who seemed to have two wives
  1. HENRIETTA DOUGLAS (RIGGS) and
  2. SARAH CATHERINE BYRD

To help with this situation or confusion of names
BP states on Fri, 1 Oct 1999 Subject: RE: [PACE-L] Is there answers ?

I am also descended from JOHN R. PACE.

My ggrandfather was JOSEPH GRIFFIN PACE.
I can provide a bit of information about him
although I realize that he is not in your direct line.

(Bill is answering a THIRD PARTY PERSON here)

I don't have the detailed information you have about John R. Pace and Emily Taylor
so I would like to get a copy of any documentation that you would be willing to share.

JOSEPH GRIFFIN PACE b. Nov, 30, 1832, d. Jul 5, 1917.

I am from the FIRST MARRIAGE
so I have not gotten much information about SARAH CATHERINE BIRD although I have been told that she was a sister of MARY JANE BIRD who married JOHN THOMAS PACE


JP on 09 Mar 2010 Subject: Re: [PACE] Hi, I'm new - states:
I just looked at the 1880 census for Cole Co and found a WM. FRANKLIN PACE age 14 in fam #124 of
JOSEPH GRIFFIN PACE age 47 with wife SARAH CATHERINE age 27
siblings appear to be

Don't know if this is your family but there are many other Paces listed for Cole Co.
Good luck searching and if I can help. let me know. JP

Kit 48329 J-W

0. Donor (starsurfer AT compwrx.com)

1 LUKE FRANCIS PACE
b.25 May 1890, Centertown, Cole Co. MO
d: 19 May 1965, Fort Supply, Woodward Co. Ok. (my Father)
+ ROMANIA MAY BROWN
b: 30 Apr 1911, Texhoma, TX.
d: 2 Feb 1990, Yakima WA

2 JOSEPH GRIFFIN PACE
b: Nov. 30, 1832, IL/Va
d: abt 1916
+ SARAH CATHERINE BYRD
b 12 Oct 1852 MO
m 1874

3 JOHN R. PACE
b 18 Apr 1790, Albemarle Co VA
d: 6 Jul 1868, Camden Co. MO
+ EMILY TAYLOR
b: 20 Jan 1803, KY
m 1829
d 17 Oct 1876 Camden Co MO

4 BENJAMIN PACE
b 1747, Middlesex Co VA
+ (? Anne ROBINSON)
b: 13 Jan 1767, Goochland Co. VA
m: 4 Oct. 1784

5 WILLIAM PACE
b: 25 Mar 1711, Middlesex Co. VA
d: abt 1782, Albemarle Co VA
+ HANNAH BOOTEN
b 1715 Middlesex Co VA
m 26 Sep. 1733
d Dec. 1785 Albermarle Co VA

6 JOHN PACE (of Middlesex)
(Possible continued lineage based on DNA comparisons
and circumstantial evidence)
b: 22 Sep., 1665-67, Wrockwardine, Shropshire, Eng.

7 JOSEPH PACE (Joshua)
b: 7 Jun 1618, Prees, Shropshire, Eng.
+ MARGARET (? PALMER)
m: 4 Mar. 1653, High Ercall, Shropshire, Eng.


Kit 141809

Comment:
This kit is an exact 67/67 match with kit 48329 above and matches 37/37 and 25/25 with the modal (most common result) for the John of Middlesex group. This is not surprising due to the Goochland origins of the submitted lineage.


Kit 47737 JM Jr. - John,Joseph,John

[jhpacerd AT charter.net]


Kit No. 25581 John, Joseph, John

  • 0 Donor
  • 1 VOLNEY CONRAD PACE
    b Mar 6, 1908, Rookins, Saint Clair County, MO
    d November 4, 1976, Kansas City, Kansas (Documented)

  • 2 EDWARD PERKINS PACE
    b June 25, 1862, Collins, Saint Clair County, MO
    d January 17, 1941, Pape, Saint Clair County, MO (Documented)

  • 3 MICHAEL PERKINS PACE
    b April 15, 1834, Pittsylvania County, VA
    d September 02, 1905 Collins, Saint Clair, County, MO Documented)

    To view some photos of MICHAEL PERKINS PACE and family members
    on Roy Johnson's "PACE PIX" - Pace Network site - CLICK HERE

    use BACK button to return here or link on page.

  • 4 FRANCIS PACE II
    b 17, 1798, Pittsylvania County VA
    d Nov 07,  1883, Saint Clair County, MO (Documented)

  • 5 FRANCIS PACE I
    Nov 25, 1764, Goochland County, VA (Documented)
    died June 20, 1842, Pittsylvania County, VA (Not Documented)

  • 6 JOHN PACE
    Mar 14, 1721/22, Middlesex County, VA
    Sept 20, 1790 Saint James, Goochland County, VA (Documented p/will)

  • 7 JOSEPH PACE, Sr. b. Abt. 1698, Middlesex County, VA
    d April 18, 1765, Little Byrd Crk., Goochland County, Virginia

  • 8 JOHN PACE of Middelsex

 

  • 1 JOHN of Middlesex
    + Elizabeth

    2 JOSEPH PACE 1698-1765
    + Ann BASFORD

    3 JOHN PACE 1722-1790
    + Susanna HUTCHINGS

    4 FRANCIS PACE I 1764-1842

    5 FRANCIS PACE II 1798-1883

    6 MICHAEL PERKINS PACE 1834-1905

      7 EDWARD PERKINS PACE 1862-1941

      8 Father

      9 Donor

The above documented by personal research in early generations
and by Pace Society records in generations 5-8


Kit #26406 - John,Joseph,John

  • 0 Donor
  • 1 Father
  • 2 Grandfather

  • 3 JOHN PACE 1816-1890
    • born Marshall Co.Kentucky
    • died 13, July 1890 Salem, Dent Co.MO.
    + MARY (Polly) CORNWELL

  • 4 EDWARD PACE
    • born 1797, Fluvanna County, VA
    • died Bef. 1850, Clark County, KY
    + 1 MATHILDA ADDISON 1819, Clark County, KY
    + 2 NANCY JUDY 06 SEP 1825, Clark County, KY

  • 5 MURRAY PACE 1751-1830
    • born Goochland Co.VA
    • died Clark Co.KY
    + MARY BRAGG 02 JAN 1783, Goochland Co.VA

  • 6 JOHN PACE 1722-1790
    • b Middlesex Co.VA d Goochland Co.VA
    + SUSANNAH HOUCHINS ? - 1808.

  • 7 JOSEPH PACE 1698-1765 b Middlesex Co VA
    + ANN BASHFORD

  • 8 JOHN PACE of Middlesex County VA?

 

  • 1 JOHN of MIDDLESEX
    + ELIZABETH

    2 JOSEPH 1698-1765
    + ANN BASFORD

    3 JOHN 1722-1790
    + SUSANNA HUTCHINGS

    4 MURRAY 1751-1830
    + MARY BRAGG

    5 EDWARD PACE 1797-pre-1850
    + 1 MATHILDA ADDISON
    + 2 NANCY JUDY

    6 JOHN PACE 1816-1890
    + MARY 'Polly' CORNWELL

    7 Grandfather
    8 Father
    9 Donor


Kit # 330337


Kit #9599 J-Jo - John,Joseph,John


DDC

Explanation: This donor tested with an organization called DDC- DNA Diagnostic Center. Different alleles were used so the DNA match is close enough to indicate this group but not perfect. However, there are sufficient documented records from other sources to prove the connection.

Donor

  1. Father
  2. Luther Blaine Pace
  3. William Henry Pace 1-17-1866
  4. Joseph Benton Pace 2025-1842 Alabama
  5. 5 WILLIAM PACE Jr. 1790-1878

Born 1790 in Virginia
Died 1878 in Jackson, Alabama

Married to: ELIZABETH WININGER

- Born 1798 and Died 1878 in Alabama

  1. 6 WILLIAM PACE Sr. 1745-1815
    Served in GEORGE WASHINGTON's Life Guards during Revolutionary War

Born October, 1745 in Goochland, Virginia
Died about 1815 in SCOTT County, Virginia

Married to: MARY WININGER

  1. 7 JOHN H. Pace 1722-1790
    served in Revolutionary War

Born Apr 8 1722 Middlesex Co.VA
Died Sept 20 1790 Goochland Co.VA

+ SUZANNAH HOUCHINS

married 1743 Goochland C.VA

  1. 8 JOSEPH PACE 1698-1765

Died Goochland Co.VA

+ ANN BASFORD

married 18 Mar 1721 Middlesex Co.VA

  1. 9 JOHN PACE of Middlesex Co.VA

 


Kit #7901 J-B - John,Benjamin,Benjamin

  • 0. Donor
  • Father
  • Grandfather

  • WILLIAM ANDREW PACE
    b 02 Sep1843 Albemarle Co VA
    + MARY ANN RICKS
  • JESSE PACE b Abt 1810 Albemarle Co, VA
    + NANCY B. MOORE
    - descendancy - (archived E-mail)
  • GEORGE PACE b Abt 1791 Goochland Co, VA
    + MARGARET MULLINS

    (From this point on this lineage is disputed.
    The following is Bruce Howard's theory.
    Others believe it more probable that the following Benjamin Pace is not the one who married Ann Robinson,
    but could be a descendent of John of Middlesex's son William.)

  • BENJAMIN FRANKLIN PACE
    b 28 Jan1746/47 Middlesex Co VA
    + ANN ROBINSON
  • BENJAMIN PACE
    + FRANCES WILLIAMSON
  • JOHN PACE of Middlesex

 

JOHN PACE of Middlesex - 1665-1720
ELIZABETH
  • BENJAMIN PACE
    s/o JOHN of MIDDLESEX
    is not listed in the Christ Church Register,
    other than the parent along with spouse MARY
    • They had several children in MIDDLESEX, none of which was a BENJAMIN.
    • BENJAMIN SR. moved with his wife MARY and family, to King and Queen County
      as an overseer of a large section of land for HENRY THACKER, who was, what would be, county clerk today
    • It is thought - the elder BENJAMIN was married to FRANCES WILLIAMSON and that She was his 2nd wife, the first was MARY.
    • It is thought - his wife MARY died. He thereafter remarried to Miss Frances Williamson of Middlesex, daughter of Samuel and Frances Williamson.
    • GWPace states - The clincher for me is - that BENJAMIN and FRANCES named a son WILLIAMSON PACE.

    • BENJAMIN FRANKLIN PACE II
      -b 28 Jan1746/47 - This BENJAMIN was most likely born in King & Queen Co as were his brothers WILLIAMSON, JOHN and posssibly DAVID.
    • BENJAMIN stayed home from Revolutionary War and brother JOHN took his place, for their father had died, BENJAMIN, eldest son, left to run the farm.
    • This BENJAMIN was a minister and believed gave the property for the PACE Church in King and Queen Co. -Jack Pace-
      + ANN ROBINSON


Kit xxxx


In connection to above lineage
ROY JOHNSON wrote May 20th, 2008

I have just posted pictures of members of this Pace family
submitted by Robin Estes - CLICK HERE - to see - but use BACK BUTTON to return here

ROBIN has just begun her Pace research
and has family records from a great uncle, as follows:

The Pace photos submitted are of JOHN P. PACE of ESMONT, Virginia, b:11-13-1867 d:7-2-1941.
JOHN is one of the children of WILLIAM ANDREW PACE and MARY ANN RICKS of Virginia.
WiILLIAM was a son of JESSE PACE and NANCY B. MOORE.
JESSE was a son of GEORGE PACE and MARGARET MULLINS
.
This is as far back as my great uncle WARREN PACE (son of JOHN P. PACE and - 3rd wife - VIRGINIA WOOD) can confirm for me. They all lived outside of Richmond in the area of Esmont, VA. Most of the extended family of John P. Pace are or were in the Albermarle County, VA area. The pictures I submitted are all taken at the home in Esmont except for the Arlington photo. I have only recently begun researching my genealogy, and have found the Pace Society quite helpful. If my information is correct, I believe I may be descended from the John of Middlesex line.

another descendant writes:
My family are descendants from WILLIAM ANDREW, as well.
William Andrew's youngest child, WESLEY, is my great grandfather. My father lived in ESMONT until he was about 4 or 5 then moved to MECHANICSVILLE, VA where we all still reside.


another descendant writes 96-08-28 Roy Johnson's Pace Network:
I would like to find Jesse's ancestors.
Floyd Pace, 2214 Cox Rd., Jarrettsville, MD 21084

Jesse Pace b. Abt. 1809
m. 6 Apr 1840 to Nancy MOORE

Floyd Robert PACE


- descendancy - (archived E-mail) of
JESSE PACE b. Abt. 1809 - m. 6 Apr 1840 to
NANCY MOORE - email in PACE Archives from John L. Elliott - June 2000


Kit 10110 J-B

Note: The two Benjamin Paces above may be the same person, two wives, but this does not affect the descendency.


 

Kit 8749 J-W - John,William,John


Kit N5752


Kit 88920

Age of JOHN H is consistent with JOHN HARTWELL above.

There is a JOHN R PACE, listed in Fluvanna 1870 age 62 census as "cooper", wife Elizabeth age 56, possibly related but too young to be parents of Jesse. Jesse is listed in that census as age 45. That would make John just 17 and Elizabeth 11 when Jesse was born.


NOTE:
Gordon Pace of Canada is NOT descended from John of Middlesex,
but his DNA showed 25/25 match with a majority of John of M descendents.

This implies probable descent from a close relative of John, and it is likely that the common ancestor is no more than three generations before John.

Click to see his descent from Shropshire/Staffordshire Paces.

This evidence plus naming similarities are strong evidence that John of Middlesex is descended from these Paces on the Welsh border, rather than from the London Paces of Richard Pace descent. - Roy Johnson

from researching
available LDS records
the common ancestor
appears to be
in this branch



JOSEPH PACE
b 1618 Prees, Shropshire
m 1653 04 MAR High Ercall, Shropshire


+ MARGARET PALMER
Chr 1631 Wellington, Shropshire
ancestry is known to her grandfather
RICHARDUS her father FRANCIS PALMER
both from SHIPTON, Shropshire
  • ANNE PACE
    - Chr 02 NOV 1655 RODINGTON, Shropshire
    - Father: JOSEH PACE


  • JOHN PACE
    likely John of Middlesex
    - Chr 22 Sep 1665 WROCKWARDINE, Shropshire
    - Father JOSEPH PACE
    - Mother MARGARET - P006621


  • GEORGE PACE
    ancestor of Gordon T. Pace
    - Chr 28 May 1670 PREES, Shropshire
    - Father: JOSEPH PACE
    - Mother not mentioned
    but George's 1st child
    also named MARGARET

ID 68931 Pierce Explanation:

  1. This person from the Pierce DNA surname study
    has a 25/25 match with most John of Middlesex Paces
    and does not match with anyone in the Pierce study.
  2. The names Pace and Pierce were often interchanged,
    especially in England,
    where the same person was listed as PIERCE one time and PACE the next census.
  3. The submitted lineage and other internet study
    by myself and the PIERCE DNA administrator
    leads us to doubt that he is a John of M descendent
  4. However, the DNA match indicates
    a probable relationship back in England.


1. JEREMIAH PIERCE is thought to have been born in 1710 in Essex County, Virginia. (This is an unverified entry.)

2. ISAAC PIERCE
  1. was the only known child of Jeremiah Pierce and Elizabeth.
  2. He was born in Caroline County, Virginia after 1735.
  3. He was living in Orange County, Virginia on July 27, 1783
    when he and his wife ANN deeded 100 acres of land to their son FRANCIS PIERCE.
  4. It is believed that he died in Orange County prior to 1791?
3. FRANCIS PIERCE 1760-1853 (Aug. 1760-Feb. 22, 1853) + ELIZABETH LEWIS married about 1782
daughter of JAMES LEWIS. (LEWIS name not verified).

  1. After marriage, they moved to Wilkes County, North Carolina about 1784.
  2. In 1801 he sold his land then removed to Cumberland County, Kentucky
    (later named Clinton, County in 1837) where he had received a Land Grant for 200 acres of land near the Central Grove churchouse, on Spring Creek of the Wolf River
  3. and lived there until his death in 1853.
4. JOHN PIERCE (1789-1854)
The Pierce graveyard
is located on the James Roy Cayce farm
1.2 miles east of Hebron Methodist Church
and is registered with the State of Kentucky Historical Society.

5. GEORGE ROBIN PIERCE 1836-1919 + He married ELVIRA MCCLAREN STEGER November 18, 1862.

The GEORGE ROBIN PIERCE family
lived on the JOHN PIERCE homeplace
1.2 miles east of the Hebron Methodist Church,
Christian County, Kentucky.

6. CHARLES LUCIAN PIERCE 1878-1958
was born July 23, 1878.
He married EDNA ASHTON ADAMS on February 11, 1911. He died April 9, 1958.

7. JAMES ADAMS PIERCE 1911-1999
was born Dec 7, 1911.
He married ELLEN MCCRAE on April 16, 1935.
He died on February 20, 1999.

This recent note from Brad Pierce,
coordinator of the Pierce DNA project:
Actually, in a more extended version of that pedigree he began with this: 

"The earliest pioneers in my family arrived in America in 1682 in Piscataway, New Jersey and others in Middlesex County, Virginia about 1684. So somewhere in his family tradition, maybe verbal, is the notion that these Pierces started out in Middlesex Co. Va.  It is interesting that several Middlesex Paces are in the same counties in Kentucky as this Pierce line in later generations".

Brad


Anc2*
(This Pierce person tested with Ancestry.com so the alleles are a little different,
but the match with John of M Paces was 26/27. This is further evidence of the Pierce-Pace common ancestry.

Instead of a straight lineage I have chosen to use the narrative lineage by the sponsor of this donor.

My Pierce pedigree doesn't go back very far.  My great-grandfather was orphaned as a child.  Through some research, it looks like his parents were EDWARD ARCHER PIERCE (b. about 1825 in Tennessee) and EMILY J. MYERS (Myars, Miers, etc.), b. about 1835 or 1836 in Tennessee.
  1. They were living in James Bayou Township, Mississippi Co. MISSOURI in the 1860 census.
  2. EDWARD A. PIERCE was a physician.
  3. EDWARD and EMILY had three sons--
    1 WILLIAM WALLACE PIERCE
    2 THOMAS ULYSSES PIERCE and
    3 PAUL PIERCE (it could be Charles Paul Pierce).

THOMAS ULYSSES PIERCE and FRANCES HAM PIERCE had seven children:

  1. Emmie, Willia, Archer, Thomas, Myrtle, Louis Christopher, and W. Floyd.
  2. Thomas (the son) died as a child.
  3. Louis Christopher Pierce was my Grandpa.
  4. L. C. Pierce had four children.
  5. The eldest, Robert Louis Pierce, was my dad.
  6. My dad's brother took the DNA test for our family
  7. --my dad passed away in 2006.

Donors who cited one of the believed sons of
"Richard Pace II" as ancestor ("Richard III", James, or John)
(Red letters show common ancestors among donors)

NOTE:
Our DNA evidence has divided this group clearly into two sub-groups. At first, FTDNA thought they were not related, but with our persistent requests for a review, it was decided that they are indeed one group. However, there is a marked difference, with a difference of two in marker 6 and one in marker 21.

This indicates that one of the descendents of the patriarchal ancestor must have had a double mutation in one allele and a single mutation in the other. It is most unlikely that such a combination would occur twice; therefore, even though the DNA evidence contradicts some of the submitted lineages, it is likely that the DNA evidence is correct.


Group 3a
Kit #6352
Richard,Richard,Richard + Cain - Drury

  • 0. Doner
  • 1. Father
  • 2. Grandfather

  • 3 WILLIAM S. PACE
      b 1826 GA
      d 1863 (P.O.W) Indianapolis, IN
    + + MARY JANE DOZIER
      (1850 census; D.E. Pace will)

  • 4 DREADZIL EVANS PACE
      b 1805 SC
      d 1852 Talladega Co
      (Now Clay), AL
    + MELITA LEVERETT
      (Wm Pace Bible;
      B. Pace Lt.; Tombstone)

  • 5 WILLIAM PACE
      b 1772 SC
      d 1835 Jasper Co GA
    + LUCRETIA ROBINSON GARDNER
      (Wm. Pace Bible;
      B. Pace Ltr.)

  • 6 DRURY PACE
      b 1745 Northampton Co NC
      d 1801 Richmond Co GA
    + m. MARY BUSSEY
      (B. Pace Ltr; Richmond Co GA will)

  • 7 RICHARD PACE
      b abt 1699 VA
      d bef 1776 Edgefield District SC
    + ELIZABETH CAIN
      --- (Barnabus Pace Ltr.)

  • 8 RICHARD PACE
      b abt 1676 VA
      d 1736 Bertie Co NC
    + ?

  • 9. RICHARD PACE
      b abt 1638 VA
      d abt 1677 VA
    + MARY ( ? BAKER ? )
    - the BAKER name not proven
    the MARY name is proven

Important
FACTS to CONSIDER

A suggestion: would it not be a good idea
to make it clear which bits are proven
and which bits are not?

  1. The name BAKER is NOT proven
    The name Mary IS proven
    jp.
  2. The only proven, documented facts are:
    Richard Pace's (approximate) year of BIRTH and year of DEATH, and the FORENAME of his wife MARY.
  3. Beyond that, there are differing interpretations of the available evidence.


Chart shows
- at top -
RICHARD PACE b abt 1638 VA. d abt 1677 VA.
spouse - MARY (BAKER not proven - MARY is)
and their five children

  1. John & Elizabeth 1660
  2. Richard & Rebecca 1661
  3. George
  4. Thomas
  5. James & Elizabeth 1669
and their descendants

DNA Chart

If you have a Mac
you can
zoom in on chart
use control key
and two fingers on track pad


DNA Chart


Group 3a Kit #14184
Richard,Richard + ?Cain? - Silas

  • O. Donor
  • 1 Father
  • 2 Grandfather
  • 3 WILLIAM PACE
      born in GA
      died between 1860 and 1866
      (federal and state census)
    + MARY ANN POLLARD
      1847 Marion County, GA (marriage record)

  • 4 WILLIAM PACE
      died before May 1823 Bibb County GA
      (newspaper and court records)
    + BATHENA COX about 1800
    + PATSY HIXON 1823 Columbia County, GA (marriage record)

  • 5 SILAS PACE
      born about 1726 VA
      died abt 1802 Edgefield County SC
      (court records)
    + MARY NEWSOME married about 1747

  • 6 RICHARD PACE IV
      born about 1700 VA
      died about 1775
    ? + ELIZABETH CAIN ? m about 1723

  • 7 RICHARD PACE III
      born about 1665 VA
      died about 1738 NC

RICHARD PACE III 1665-1738 NC
+

RICHARD PACE IV 1700-1775
ELIZABETH CAIN ? m about 1723

    SILAS PACE - born about 1726 VA
    died abt 1802 Edgefield County SC
    (court records)
    + MARY NEWSOME married about 1747

    WILLIAM PACE
    - died before May 1823 Bibb County GA
    (newspaper and court records)
    + BATHENA COX about 1800
    + PATSY HIXON - (marriage record)
    - 1823 Columbia County, GA

    WILLIAM PACE
    born in GA - died between 1860 and 1866
    (federal and state census)
    + MARY ANN POLLARD (marriage record) 1847 Marion County, GA


EMAILS in ARCHIVES

Drop to the right, with custom offset of 8px horizontally, 0px vertically, added:

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Group 3a Kit 144464
Richard + Cain - Drury

  • 0 Donor
  • 1 Father
  • 2 AMOS GIDEON PACE
  • 3 RICHARD RANDALL PACE
  • 4 DREDZIL EVANS PACE 12/25/18051805-1852
  • 5 WILLIAM PACE b. abt 1772 SC
    + LUCRECIA LAZENBY
  • 6 DRURY PACE b. 10/1745 Craven Co, NC
    + MARY BUSSY
  • 7 RICHARD PACE b. 1700 VA
    + ?ELIZABETH CAIN?
  • 8 RICHARD PACE b. 1661 Charles City Co, VA
    + ?

Information from Dredzil Evans Pace on back supplied by Gordon W. Pace

RICHARD PACE III 1665-1738 NC
+ ?

RICHARD PACE IV 1700-1775
+ ELIZABETH CAIN ? m about 1723

    DRURY PACE b 10/1745 Craven Co.NC
    + MARY BUSSY

    WILLIAM PACE b abt 1772 SC
    + LUCRECIA LAZENBY

    DREDZIL EVANS PACE 1805-1852
    12/25/1805

    RICHARD RANDALL PACE

    AMOS GIDEON PACE

 

Group 3a Kit 140013 - 3a
Richard + Cain - James

  • Donor
  • Father
  • CHARLES S. PACE
      b. 7/26/1879 Canada
      d. 11/2/1936 U.S.A.
  • EBENEZER PACE
      b. 1/28/1809 Canada
      d. 3/6/1885 Canada
    + ELIZABETH ISNOR
      b 6 Apr 1813
      m Dec 28, 1831
  • THOMAS PACE
      b. ca 1775
      went to Nova Scotia 1784
      d. ??
    + MARY SMITH
      - m 27 Jan 1803 St. Pauls Church, Halifax NS
  • JAMES PACE
      b. ca 1724
      d. ca 1784 St. Augustine Florida
      JAMES' wife and children
      went to Nova Scotia with brother DARIUS PACE
    + AURELIA DUPREE

  • RICHARD PACE IV
      b ca 1699
      d ca 1775
    + ?ELIZABETH CAIN?

  • RICHARD PACE III
      b ca 1655/1675
      d ca 1738
  • RICHARD PACE II
      b ca 1637
      d 11/17/1677
  • GEORGE PACE
      b ca 1609
      d ca 1655
  • RICHARD PACE I
      b ca 1580
      d ca 1627

RICHARD PACE III 1665-1738 NC
+ ?

RICHARD PACE IV 1700-1775
ELIZABETH CAIN ? m about 1723

    JAMES PACE 1724-1784
      died at St.Augustine,Florida
      JAMES' wife and children
      went to Nova Scotia
      with brother DARIUS PACE
    + AURELIA DUPREE

    THOMAS PACE - b ca 1775

      went to Nova Scotia 1784
      with mother, brothers, uncle
    + MARY SMITH - m 27 Jan 1803
    St.Pauls Church, Halifax, Nova Scotia

    EBENEZER PACE 1809-1885
      b. 1/28/1809 Canada - d. 3/6/1885 Canada
    + ELIZABETH ISNOR
    - b 6 Apr 1813 - m Dec 28, 1831

    CHARLES S. PACE 1879-1936
    b. 7/26/1879 Canada - d. 11/2/1936 U.S.A.

Group 3a - Kit 119455
Richard + Cain - Barnabus

  • 0. Donor

  • 1. Father
  • 2 WILLIAM LUMPKIN PACE
      b. 1865 Calhoun Co, GA
      d. 1937 Terrell Co, GA
  • 3 NOEL (Noah) WILLIAM PACE
      b. 1826 Elbert Co, GA
      d. 1902 Terrell Co, GA
  • 4 JOHN PACE
      b. 1800 Elbert Co, GA
      d. 1859 Calhoun Co, GA
  • 5 BARNABUS PACE
      b. 1747
      d. 1831 Elbert Co, GA
  • 6 RICHARD PACE IV
      b. 1700 NC
    + ?ELIZABETH CAIN?
  • 7 RICHARD PACE III
      b. 1675 Virginia
      d. 1738 NC

RICHARD PACE III 1665-1738 NC
+ ?

RICHARD PACE IV 1700-1775
+ ELIZABETH CAIN ? m about 1723

    BARNABUS PACE 1747-1831
    died at Elbert County, Georgia

    JOHN PACE 1800-1859
    b. 1800 Elbert Co. Georgia
    d. 1859 Calhoun Co. Georgia

    NOEL (Noah) WILLIAM PACE 1826-1902
    b 1826 Elbert Co, GA
    d 1902 Terrell Co, GA

    WILLIAM LUMPKIN PACE 1865-1937
    b. 1865 Calhoun Co, GA
    d. 1937 Terrell Co, GA


My father was directly descended from Richard Pace I through George Pace, Richard Pace II, Richard Pace III, Richard Pace IV, Drury Pace, William Pace, Dreadzil Evans Pace, Dreadzil Lee Evans Pace, Grover Cleveland Pace, and then my siblings and me. My grandfather, Dreadzil Lee Evans Pace, was born after his father, Dreadzil Evans Pace died--he was the youngest of a large family. My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents on both sides of my family all lived and are buried in Ashland, Clay County, Alabama where I grew up.

Kit 179032


Kit #161294 - Group 3a
Alfred Gaines P.1810 GA



Kit #10428 - Group 3a
Hardy - Eli

Kit #163681 - Group 3a
John - Isaac - Paulding Co GA

  • 0. Donor
  • 1. JAMES CROCKETT PACE
      b. 1900 Paulding Co. GA
    + Effie DRISKELL

  • 2. ROBERT FRANKLIN PACE
      b 1868 Paulding Co. GA
    + ELIZABETH SHELNOT (Sp?)

  • 3. ISAAC (Sp?) PACE
      b Paulding Co. GA
    + COGGINS (?)

  • 4. JOHN PACE

An archive search - 'PAULDING Co. GA' turned up:
this reference to Roy Johnson's page:-
Go to - Roy Johnson's site - Eli Bynum Family Information provided by descendents
John Pace m. to Nancy Camp, probably the daughter of Nathan Camp of Jackson and Gwinnett Co, GA. Uncertain if JOHN PACE is the 4.JOHN PACE at left.

 

GROUP 3a - Kit #10428

  • 0. Donor
  • 1. Father
  • 2. Grandfather
  • 3. THOMAS B. PACE 1813-1890 ( " " " )
  • 4. HARDY PACE 1784-1836 (buried in Cochran, GA)
  • 5. THOMAS PACE 1750-1795 or John Pace II (1696-1761)
  • 6. THOMAS PACE 1704-1765 or John Pace I (1668-1727)
  • 7. RICHARD PACE 1655-1736 or '38
  • 8. RICHARD PACE 1637-1677

HARDY PACE
and associated GEORGIA History


GROUP 3a - Kit #10265 - UNSURE
but DNA shows
common ancestry with this group (3a)

  • 0. Donor
  • 1. Father
  • 2. Grandfather

  • 3. ELI PACE
      b. 10 Oct 1835, Dist. of Bevil (Jasper Co) Texas
      d. 19 Apr 1923, Jasper Co TX
    + NANCY HENDERSON
  • 4. HARDY PACE
      b. 7 Oct 1807, Georgia
      d. 2 May 1880, Jasper Co Texas
    + MAHALLA ISAACKS

  • 5. Hardy's father is unknown at this time.
    His mother was SUSAN HUTCHINS
    who married 2nd JERROD BERRY
    and 3rd THOMAS WATTS.

 

WE FEEL

HARDY's FATHER is connected to
the north GEORGIA Paces

where the name HARDY is prevalent

but have never been able
to document a connection.

We hope this DNA project
helps us finally find
the rest of the family tree!!

COMMENT:
DNA results show this individual to have common ancestry with others who believe themselves descended from Richard II group 3a,

so I have listed him under this heading.

WILLIAM PACE-RUTH LAMBERT
SUB GROUP


Group 3a - Kit #6366 - 3a
Wm. + Lambert - Isaac - John - Wm.

(Disputed from this point on)


COMMENT
Perfect 25 match of this donor and the one below is strong evidence of close relationship.

HOWEVER
- Note that WILLIAM No. 5 in the lineage above is the same as WILLIAM No. 8 in 6429 below.

These two individuals are from the same line but disagree about the lineage from WILLIAM on back.
  1. Donor 6429 accepts Bruce Howard's theory;
  2. Donor 6366 (R-W(Jo1) does not.

 R-W(Jo1) believes he has sufficient documentation
as listed on Val Tice's home page


Kit #6429 Group 3a
Wm. + Lambert - James - James - Warren


Kit 128919 Group 3a
Wm. + Lambert - Isaac - John - Jefferson

Kit 163053 Group 3a
Wm. + Lambert - James - Wm. - Harvey - Wm.

    0. Donor
    1. CARLOS MIDDLETON PACE (1902)

    2. WILLIAM HARVEY PACE Jr. (1875)
    b 5 Apr 1875 New Harmony, Washington Co. UT
    + KATHRYN MIDDLETON d. 29 Sept 1947

    3. WILLIAM HARVEY PACE
    .....b Nov 25 1854 Palmyra, Utah Co Utah
    + HANNAH MARIE GODDARD
    .....d 15 Feb 1879. (Cousins-see below)

how the relationship seems to have been......
    3. 5 WILLIAM HARVEY PACE b 1854
    .....s/o 4 HARVEY ALEXANDER PACE b 1833
    .....s/o 3 WILLIAM FRANKLIN PACE 1806-1876
    .....brother of 3 JAMES PACE b 1811 - father of
    .....4 MARY ANN PACE who married WILLIAM GODDARD
    .....they had daughter
    5 HANNAH GODDARD who married
    5 WILLIAM HARVEY PACE (2nd Cousins)

    4. 4 MARY ANN PACE
    .....d/o 3 JAMES PACE b 1811
    + WILLIAM GODDARD
    .....daughter 5 HANNAH GODDARD

    married 5 WILLIAM HARVEY PACE

    4. HARVEY ALEXANDER PACE
    b. 12 Oct 1833 Murfreesboro, Rutherford Co TN
    + ELIZABETH ANN REDD d. 23 Dec. 1918

    5. WILLIAM FRANKLIN PACE (1806-1876)
    b 23 Jul 1806 Double Springs, Rutherford Co., TN
    + MARGARET NICHOLS
    d 21 Sept. 1887 New Harmony, Washington Co. UT.

    6. JAMES PACE (1778-1814)
    b 23 Jan 1778 Northampton NC
    d 1814 Battle of New Orleans
    + MARY ANN LOVING (or Laven)

    7. WILLIAM PACE 1750-51
    b 1750/51 Bute, Franklin Co NC
    + RUTH LAMBERT

Webmaster note:
Lineage prior to William/Ruth is in dispute

    8. William Pace (1716-1790)

    This family has two connections to William + Ruth Lambert,
    one through a female Pace, as follows - beginning with generation 3 above.

    3. Hannah Goddard m. William Harvey Pace (Cousins)
    4. Mary Ann Pace m William Goddard
    5. James Pace Jr. (1811-)

      Note that he is younger brother of William Franklin Pace
      --see list above
    6. James Pace
      --see list above
    7. WILLIAM PACE + RUTH LAMBERT

1 WILLIAM PACE Sr.
    born abt 1750/1751, Granville, NC
    died bet 1830/1837, Rutherford County, TN
+ RUTH LAMBERT

2 JAMES PACE 1778-1814
b Northampton, NC - d Battle of New Orleans
+ MARY ANN LOVING

  • 3 WILLIAM FRANKLIN PACE 1806-1876
    + MARGARET NICHOLS
      d 21 Sept. 1887 New Harmony, Washington Co. UT.
    • 4 WILSON DANIEL PACE 1831-1889
        b Murfeesboro, TN
        d Thatcher, Graham Co AZ
      + ELIZABETH LEE
    • 4 HARVEY ALEXANDER PACE
        b 12 Oct 1833 Murfreesboro, Rutherford Co TN
      + ELIZABETH ANN REDD
        d 23 Dec. 1918
      • 5 WILLIAM HARVEY PACE
          b Nov 25 1854 Palmyra, Utah Co Utah
        + HANNAH MARIE GODDARD
          d 15 Feb 1879. (Cousins-see below)
      • 5 WILLIAM WILSON PACE 1857-1931
        + CATHERINE RANKIN
  • 3 JAMES PACE Jr.
      born June 16 1811 Double Springs, Rutherford Co Tennessee
      died April 06, 1888 Thatcher, Graham Co Arizona. (Documented)
    • 4 MARY ANN PACE
      + WILLIAM GODDARD
      • 5 HANNAH MARIE GODDARD
        + WILLIAM HARVEY PACE
    • 4 Brig. General WILLIAM BYRAM PACE 1832-1907
        b 1832 Rutherford TN
      • 5 WILLIAM JAMES PACE b 1854
    • 4 WARREN SIDNEY PACE
        born December 28 1837 in Shelbyville, Shelby Co Illinois - died December 21, 1903 in Payson, Utah Co Utah. (Documented)
      • 5 SIDNEY DAVID PACE 1858-1930
          b January 01 1858 in Payson, Utah Co Utah
          d April 22 1930 in Rock Creek, Montose Co Colorado (Documented)
2 ISAAC PACE 1798-abt 1850
+ married unknown ca 1819
  • 3 JOHN PACE abt 1832-1865 1865, Jan 5
    + MINERVA JANE BATTON ~1855
    • 4 WILLIAM WESLEY PACE 1856-1935
        born 12-Apr-1856
        died 20-Sep-1935
      + GEORGIA MILLER m 7-Dec-1879
      • 5 ALZO BRYAN PACE Sr.
          born 15-Mar-1896

Kit #14155 Group 3a
Wm. + Lambert - James - Wm. - Wilson

(Web master note:
This seems to be in error contradicting other entries)

Disputed from this point on)

(This generation is my biggest problem area and I have chosen Bruce Howard's arguments with some reservations and further research needed)

Kit #117474 Group 3a
Wm. + Lambert - James - Wm. - Wilson

Kit 15548 Group 3a
Wm. + Lambert - James - Wm. - Harvey - Gordon


Kit 63672 Group 3a
Wm. + Lambert - James - Wm. - Wm.

(Disputed from this point on)

Kit 7833 Group 3a
Wm. + Lambert - James - James - Wm. Byram

(Disputed from this point on)

Kit 132805 Group 3a
Wm. + Lambert - Isaac - John - Wm. - Alzo


END WILLIAM PACE-RUTH LAMBERT
SUB GROUP
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Kit 131118 - Group 3a
John + Ann Russell - John


Kit #10265 - Group 3a
Thomas 1802 NC


50592 Unknown


20864 Group 3a
R-Ja - George before 1785


Kit #55605 - Group 3a
George ca 1692


WAKE County, North Carolina - Pace line


Kit 214569

WAKE COUNTY, North Carolina
O. Donor

1. Father

2. HOMER MACGEE PACE 1891-1951
.. b Wake Co, NC 14 b. Sept 1891
.. d Charleston SC 15 Nov 1951
+ MABEL

3. THOMAS LILINGTON PACE 1865-1919
.. b Wake Co. NC b. 14 Dec 1865
.. d Durham, NC 11 Jan 1919

4.JAMES MADISON PACE
.. b Wake Co. NC
.. d Wake Co. NC
+ ARA ANN HOLDING

5. DAVID PACE
.. b Wake Co. NC
.. d Wake Co. NC Aug 1859
+ KITTY WALL

6. JAMES PACE
.. b NC
.. d Wake Co. NC Feb 1815

7. JAMES PACE SR.
.. b Edgecombe Co. NC

8. GEORGE PACE
.. b VA
.. d Edgecombe Co. NC
+ Obedience

9. JOHN PACE SR.
.. b VA
.. d Bertie Precinct, NC Aug 1727
+ Elizabeth Lowe

10. RICHARD PACE
.. b Charles City VA
.. d Charles City VA
+ MARY

11. GEORGE PACE
.. b England
.. d Charles City, NC
+ SARAH MACOCK

12. RICHARD
.. b England
.. d James City Co. VA
+ ISABELLA SMITH

Comments in ARCHIVES - this line
click on links below - read comments

Two HENRY PACES and brother of JAMES MADISON PACE Wake Co.NC Gen. Society Page
WAKE County Genealogical Society
Has any of the Wake Co NC Paces done DNA
PRESSLEY PACE
Genealogy & Historie Of The Eastern Shore of Virginia
Willis Pace/Bunch:


COMMENTS in ARCHIVES - THIS LINE
HOVER MOUSE HERE - click on links - read comments


DAVID PACE
b. Wake Co. NC d. Wake Co. NC Aug 1859
+ KITTY WALL

  • SOLOMAN PACE b 1813 NC
    + ELIZA HORTON b 1810 NC
    • HENRY PACE b 1838 Wake Co.
    • NANCY
    • JANE
    • WILLIAM
  • JAMES MADISON PACE
    b Wake Co. NC abt 1815 - d Wake Co. NC
    + ARA ANN HOLDING
    • THOMAS LILINGTON PACE 1865-1919
      b Wake Co. NC 14 Dec 1865
      d Durham, NC 11 Jan 1919


Kit #57109 - Group 3a
Cosby Alonzo


Kit #107999 - Group 3a
Thomas 1902 MS

Comment:
24/25 match places this donor in group 3a.
Deviation in marker 4 is unique to this donor.

Contact person: patricia hawsey, pphawsey AT yahoo.com

Kit Number 108957 Group 3a
Rich + Cain - Silas

His father apparently died @1838 in AL as Bartley, mother, and two sisters appear on Talledega, AL, 1850 census with stepfather, John Wallis.  They moved to TX 1856....

My step grandmother wrote one D.K. Pace as Bartley's father on his death certificate; however, he died  in TX in 1874, and other researchers say there was a Bartley, Sr., through the two Silas Pace lines, so forth

Webmaster's note:
I have been informed that evidence has been found that BARTLEY was a grandson of RICHARD and ELIZABETH (Cain)'s son SILAS.

Betty Pitchford Bpitchford4 AT aol.com


Kit 125997 Group 3a
- Bignal - 1750

    0. Donor:

    1. Father

    2. Grandfather: WILLIAM ANDREW PACE
      b. 3 June 1887
    + MARTHA MALONE d. 9 Aug. 1963

    3. JOSEPH FARRAR PACE b. 1859
    + WILLIE ANNIE FARRAR d. after 1920

    4. WILLIAM A. PACE b. 1831
    + MARIAH A. FARRAR d. between 1900-1910

    5. JAMES T. PACE b. 15 Nov.1793
    + m. ANN LEIGH PHILLIPS d. 21 March 1848

    6. BIGNAL PACE b. c. 1753
    + 1) ELIZABETH CHEIVES/CHEAVES
      d. 1817 - (Listed in Pace bulletin no. 131
      March 2000 as William Bignal Pace)

E-mails in ARCHIVES that mention BIGNAL PACE

Bignal Pace-Prince George Co, VA b 1753
Bignal Pace

Comment:
This Pace line seems to have stayed in the Virginia area unlike many of the others in group 3 who moved south. The locale of the donor is the Richmond, Virginia, area.


Kit 141962 Group 3a
John + Ann Russell - Twitty

Comment:
This Twitty Pace descendent matches 34/37 with the modal for group 3a and has the two distinctive markers consistent with this group.

See the other Twitty Pace descendent
who does not match any Paces, kit 55000


Kit 197970

0. Donor

1. William Alma Pace; b: 28 September 1875, New Harmony, Iron, Utah

2. John Alma Lawrence Pace; b: 2 February 1841, Murfreesboro, Rutherford County, TN

3. William Franklin Pace, Sr.; b: 3 July 1806; Double Springs, Rutherford County, TN

4. James Pace; b. 23 January 1778; N, North Carolina

5. William Pace; b. About 1750/1751; Bute, Franklin, North Carolina (disputed at this point)

6. William Pace; b. about 1716; Prince George, VA

7. George Pace; b. about 1692; Prince George, VA

8. John Pace; b. about 1668; Charles City, Charles Co., VA

9. Richard Pace; b. about 1638; Charles City, Charles Co., VA

10. George Pace;

11. Richard Pace;


 

Group 3b

This group is distinguished from 3a by a two step difference in marker 26 and a single step difference in marker 21. Normally, this would indicate that they are not related, but FTDNA performed a careful analysis of other markers and has determined that they ARE related. The mutations must have occurred AFTER the common ancestor.

Donor 10683 submits a totally different ancestry chart citing a William Pace as son of Richard II Pace records do not indicate such a son.

It would be well to examine the documentation carefully.

Most recent common ancestor  (as per submitted lineage) shown in red.

Kit #7791 - Group 3b
Jesse? - Simeon - Francis

They migrated there from Martin's Brandon Parish, Prince George Co VA.
This is the same John Pace who is believed to have later moved to Surry, NC after the death of his brother Richard....Strong circumstantial evidence, DNA results

Kit #13827 - Group 3b
Jesse ? - Richmond - John

there is a Jesse Pace on Madison Co Ky Cen 1820 but unsure Documented


Kit #88349 - Group 3b
John + Sarah - Burrell ? - Richmond - William

Joseph and Lonie were distant cousins as both are direct descendents of Richard Pace and Sarah Woodliefe, parents of the John Pace above.


Kit #53888 - Group 3b
Jesse ? - Richmond - William


Kit #65302 - Group 3b
Jesse ? - John - Zachariah


Kit #122167 - Group 3b ?
Unknown

This donor writes:

"My Grandfather was born Ernest Houston Pace in Huntsville, Texas @ 1906. At some point for reasons unknown to me his name changed to Roy Shannon."

This person has no evidence beyond this but DNA places him in Group 3, most likely Group 3b based on the DNA result at marker 385b (marker 6 on the chart


Notes
There is a difference of opinion among Jesse Pace submitters about Jesse's lineage back to John and Sarah Pace.  This page uses the opinion of the submitters for this category initially, until and unless hard evidence to the contrary can be found. Therefore, this designation has been changed to make Jesse the first proven ancestor.

Part of the controversy hinges on the wording of a deed of 1778 in which Thomas Pace sold some land. If a copy of that deed can be found and printed on this page, it might help to resolve the controversy.

WILLIAM PACE-SICELY WALKER line:
The following entries show
clear descent from William-Sicely.
The DNA record shows them matching with Group 3b

Kit #10683 - Group 3b
Wm. + Sicely Walker - Wm.

(donor says he is completely sure of lineage to this point)

Note:
There is no known record for such a son of RICHARD II. The Winifred Aycock Lane letter mentions her grandfather (Richard Jr.) plus Thomas, John, George, and James

Comment:
Although this donor submitted the above lineage, DNA evidence shows him to be in Group 3b with an especially close relationship to 7791. A careful check of sources for this lineage is indicated.

Kit 134499 - Group 3b
Wm. + Sicely Walker - Gideon

  1. 0. Donor

  2. Father
  3. Grandfather
  4. Great-Grandfather -
    ROBERT JAMES PACE
      b. June 8, 1848, Columbus, Colorado Co. TX
      d September 4, 1903, Bastrop Co. TX
    + Married MARTHA ELLEN KEEPERS

  5. G-Great-Grandfather -
    DEMPSEY COUNCIL PACE
      b, abt 1820, TN
      - d. Oct. 3, 1851, Columbus, Colorado Co. TX
    + Married ELIZABETH DABNEY

  6. G-G-Great-Grandfather -
    GIDEON PACE
      b. abt 1784, TN
      d. abt Sept. 2, 1829
      Schooner Eclipse returning to TX
      GIDEON arrived in TX in 1828
      documented in Texas State Archives.
      Gideon is listed with known brothers in William Pace Sr. will
    + Married MARTHA HUNT

  7. G- G-G-Great-Grandfather
    WILLIAM PACE Sr.
      b. abt 1747, Edgecombe Co NC
      d. 1845, in Montgomery Co., TN
    + Married SICELY WALKER

For further comment on
possible ancestors of William click here

Kit 138826 - Group 3b
Wm. + Sicely Walker - John

  1. 0. Donor
  2. RICHARD LEE PACE
      b. Mar. 2, 1920 Ballard County KY
      d. Mar. 28, 2003 Ballard County KY
  3. WILLIAM BENJAMIN PACE
      b. May 16, 1879 Ballard County KY
      d. Oct. 20, 1963 Ballard County KY
    + BERTHA CHRISTINA CORNELL

  4. WILLIAM MATTHEW PACE
      b. Oct. 20, 1841, Robertson County TN
      d. Feb. 15, 1929 Ballard County KY
    + MARY ARAMINTA LYNN

  5. ALCEY CARSON PACE
      b. abt. 1818, Robertson County TN
      d. abt 1857 Montgomery County TN
    + 1. MARY B. LUTER
    + 2. ELIZABETH FARMER

  6. JOHN R. PACE
      b. abt. 1785 Nash County, NC
      d. Dec. 1859 Montgomery County TN
    + SARA HUNT

  7. WILLIAM PACE Sr.
      b. abt. 1747 Halifax County NC
      d. 1845 Montgomery County TN
    + SISLEY WALKER

Kit # 35220 - Group 3b
Wm. + Sicely Walker - Wyche

Kit #16218 - Group 3b
Wm. + Sicely Walker - Alsey

E-mails in ARCHIVES that mention the name STUMP

Re: Frederick Stump log house
cemetery near Burton Tourist Court Davidson Co TN

Pace, Stump, Hyde, Gentry, Shallow Ford
Re: [PACE] Pace, Stump, Hyde, Gentry, Shallow Ford
Alsey Pace-War of 1812
DNA funding needed
ROLL CALL-My Earliest Pace Ancestor
DNA Edmund Pace/Alsa Carroll Pace
Ancestry of James Dean Pace

Chris Stump Pace Pace

There is a slight possibility that the George who was the father of William Pace, Sr. was a different George than the one listed here, possibly son of Richard Pace and Sarah Woodliefe.

End William Pace Sicely Walker sub group


Kit #13700 - Group 3b
John + Sarah - Burrell - Daniel

COMMENT:
24/25 match plus the 2-step difference in marker 6 places this donor in group 3b.

Kit #55000 - Group 3b


All below information is from
OUR COLONIAL ANCESTORS
by Bruce Howard
and/or
The Pace Network - Pace Forums and mailing list archives

*

Comment:
extended marker tests indicate that this donor could NOT be a descendent of John Pace/Ann Russell as he does not match other descendents of this union. This donor does not match with any others in the Pace study. This could mean that he is from a yet undiscovered Pace line, that there was an unreported adoption or illegitimacy, or that the lineage is inaccurate. Further study is needed.

 

JOHN PACE - SARAH ?BURGH?
GROUP 3b


Kit #6280 - Group 3b
John + Sarah - Burrell - Cornelius

  1. 0. Donor
  2. 1. Father
  3. 3. Grandfather

  4. GEORGE ROBERT PACE
      was born on September 27, 1864 in Milton County, GA
    + DORA ELLEN TURLEY (Documented)

  5. JONATHAN PACE
      was born on April 1, 1815 in Rutherford County, NC
    + MARY THOMPSON (Documented)

  6. CORNELIUS PACE
      was born about 1787 in Spartanburg County, SC
    + ? ROYAL
      (Relationship tenuous but probable; some documentation)

  7. BURRELL PACE
      was born about 1758 in Prince George County, VA
    + LYDIA WOODRUFF
      (Documentation; relationship highly probable)

  8. JOHN PACE
      was born bef 1732 in Virginia
      He died about 1780 in Shallow Ford, Surry County, NC.
      He was married to
    + SARAH BURGH about 1753. Documentation: see above


Kit #9852 - Group 3b
John + Sarah - Burrell - Johnathan

Kit 76815 - Group 3b
John + Sarah - Burrel - Moses


Kit 127433 - Group 3b
John + Sarah - Burrell - Daniel

  1. donor
  2. father
  3. JAMES MITCHEL PACE
  4. JOSEPHUS PACE
  5. HIRAM KIMSEY PACE
  6. DANIEL KIMSEY PACE
  7. BURELL PACE
  8. JOHN PACE m. SARAH


Kit #21419 - Group 3b
John + Sarah - Stephen - Edmond

This is an interesting submission
for two reasons.
  1. The first is a name change.
    For personal reasons, James Madison Pace decided to use Madison as his last name. So the donor is a male Pace descendent although not named Pace.

  2. Secondly, he fits clearly into group 3b. Also, the mutation in marker 23 would seem to indicate a closer relationship to the other three in the chart with this mutation.

HOWEVER

note that marker 21 is consistent with group 3a, not 3b Two things could cause this:

  1. unique double mutation in this group might have occurred in two steps, rather than one -- one mutation in one generation, the next in a later one.

  2. A later mutation could have occurred reverting BACK to the original score in marker 23.

It will be interesting to follow future developments.
Posted July 29, 2004.

Kit #26541 - Group 3b - Edmund + Walker

Descendent of Edmund Pace & Sarah Walker

email  lrp AT steenrd.com

From the donor:
"According to other information that I have not tried to verify, Edmund and Sarah would have been the grandfather of Albert, # 5 on my list. Albert's father was supposedly David W. Pace, whom I believe to have been the first in my line to settle in MS."

Kit #19490 - Group 3b
John + Sarah - Stephen - Alsey

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Kit N89664 

(tested with National Geographic; matches with group 3b)

0. Donor
1.
Father ROBERT BRUCE PACE - Born Caddo Oklahoma
2. Grand Father ROBERT LEE PACE - b. 4 Oct 1867 McMinnville, TN m Laura Ellen Jeannies abt
                1902 d. 5 Nov 1931 Caddo, OK
3 Great grandfataher JOHN PACE d. 1860s + Elizabeth
4. gg grandfather JOHN PACE + Sarah
5. UNPROVEN EDMUND MARION PACE + Sarah Walker

Kit #7840 - (Group 3a
but DNA evidence shows
no relationship to this group)


 

The following two lineages seem related
#3 JOSEPH B. PACE in (Kit #12269) is half brother to
#1 WALTER EUGENE PACE in (Kit #137170)
but DNA results suggest that they did NOT share the same father

Kit 137170 - Group 3b
Thomas 1790 NC

  • 0 Donor

  • 1 WALTER EUGENE PACE
      b 1876 Waverly, Humphreys Co TN)
      d 1947 New Boston, Bowie Co TX

  • 2 JOACHIM "Joac" L.
    • b 1823-1825 prob Williamson Co TN
    • 16 Aug 1843 "Joac" PACE m Emily Jane DOTSON (DODSON) Williamson Co TN
    • c1845 #1 child, "Laversia" born
    • 18 Mar 1845 "Thomas" PACE m. Nancy M. LOGSDON in Williamson Co - could this be a brother? Cousin? to Joacum?
    • 24 Aug 1870 "Joseph L." PACE family in Waverly Twp, CD#4, Humphreys Co, TN
    • c1846 #2 "Descipee T." born, but dies a few years later
    • *c1849 #3 "Ida Louise" born. She m Tom NELSON aft 1870
    • 11 Feb 1849 #4 "Joseph B." born. He m Jennie P. BUCHANAN abt 1884
    • 1850 Census - J.L. PACE family in Hardin Co, TN
    • 02 Oct 1845 #5 "Thomac C." born. He m Mariah L. SNOWDEN abt 1890
    • *c1858 #6
      "Elisah Elbert" Pace is born.
    • 1860 Census -
      J.L."Joseph" PACE family in Perry Co TN
    • *c1861 #7 "Leonidas P" is born. He m Mary TAYLOR in 1882.
    • c1864 #8 "Samuel A." Pace is born.
    • Jan 1868 - J.L. leased land in Humphreys Co. TN from George. W. PHEBUSA
    • 24 Aug 1870
      -"Joseph L." PACE family in Waverly Twp, CD#4, Humphreys Co, TN
    • c 1871 -
      1st wife "Emily Jane" dies
      (no gravesite found)
    • c1871 - J.L. m Nancy Emma England McKAMEY, prob in Humpreys Co TN
    • c1873 #9
      "Ada" is born in Waverly, Humphreys Co TN
    • c 1875 #10 "Theophilus Elmore" born He m Lela SMITH
    • 25 Nov 1875 #11 "Walter Eugene" born in Waverly. He moved to New Boston, Bowie Co, TX & m. Carrie Estella Burden CAMPBELL
    • c1877 #12 "Boley" is born but he drowns in Buffalo River when young
    • 02 May 1879 #13 "Chester Arthur" born. He m Ferry Ethel CARPENTER & d. in ...Rector, Clay Co AR
    • *02 Jan 1880 #14
      "Cora Emma" is born in Waverly, Humphreys Co, TN. She m ..Stephen Henderson Wooten YANCEY in Rector, Clay Co AR
    • 1880 Census -
      "Joacum L."PACE family in Dist #4 Humphrey Co TN
    • Jan 1882 #15 dau. "Lenzie" is born TN, m W.T. "Tom" DAVIS & d. in Piggott, ...Clay Co, AR
    • June 1884 - J.L. PACE is deceased
    • Nov 1884 - widow Emma PACE vs Thomas PACE et al for 1/3 widow's
    • Mar 1885 - widow Nancy Emma & stepson Thomas & siblings make property ..agreement in Humphrey Co, TN court
    • Dec 1885 - widow Nancy Emma
      m. William HENSON
    + NANCY EMMA McKAINEY
      b ca 1848 TN
      d ca 1890 Clay Co? AR

  • 3 THOMAS PACE, Sr.
      b 1790-1794 SC? NC?
      d Oct1867-May 1868 Williamson Co TN
    + CATHERINE (DONAHOO?)
      b 1790-1794 VA? NC?
      d ca 1865 Williamson Co TN

Kit #12269 - Unsure

  • 0 Donor
  • 1 CHESTER LEE PACE
      (b 1911 Craighead Co, AR)
      (d 1981 Craighead Co, AR
  • 2 JOSEPH B. PACE
      (1850-1853 Hardin or Perry Co, TN)
      (d 1894 Clay Co? AR)
  • 3 JOSEPH B. PACE
      b 11 Feb 1849 TN
      d 27 Nov 1891 Clay Co? AR
  • 4 JOACIM L. PACE
      (J.L., once Joseph L.) born 1823-1825 Williamson Co? TN
    + 1st wife
    EMILY JANE DOTSON
      c 1828 TN m 1847 Williamson Co - lived in 1850 Hardin, 1860 Perry, 1870 1880 Humphreys Counties - died ca 1883 Humpreys Co TN
  • 5. THOMAS PACE Sr.
      b 1790-1794 NC (or SC?) he got an 1816 Maury Co TN appears on Williamson Co TN census from 1830-1860 died between Oct 1867-May 1868 Williamson CO TN
    + Catherine DONAHOO?
      b 1790 VA?
      d ca 1865 Williamson Co. TN

Comment:
By family tradition and census,
#3 JOSEPH B. PACE is half brother to #1 WALTER EUGENE PACE in kit 131170  but DNA results suggest that they did NOT share the same father.

Kit #23435 - LANDRUM:
Comments:

This person, of an entirely different surname and no known Pace ancestry, matches 12/12 with 7840 - Research is indicated on his part to determine whether a Pace ancestor is possible.


 

UNSURE or OTHER
Many Paces cannot trace their lines
back to these patriarchs

John of Middlesex Co VA
or Richard, John, or James
of North Carolina)

They are encouraged to submit their lineages to see if they match any of the other Pace lines.   They will be identified by kit number and by "unsure" or "Wales" (see explanation).   Their lineages will be traced as far back as they have them; perhaps Pace genealogists can help them to extend those lines.


Frederick Pace of Wales?

The DNA of this group of Paces does not match any of the others. Family tradition and strong evidence indicates that they are the descendents of a Frederick Pace, believed to be of Wales who came to this country with sons William, John, and Dempsey, in 1768. These Paces moved to Clarke County, Alabama, and then spread out from there. It should be noted that no record of this Frederick has been found, and that "Wales" could include parts of western England on the Welsh border, as Wales was never an independent country and had no definite border. There were Welsh speakers on both sides of the presently defined border of Wales, and the "border" of Wales was "fuzzy" and even wobbled back and forth at different times.

To see the evidence for the ancestry of these Paces - click here.

Kit 8025

The donor listed below is the son,
but since these three are in the same family
it is the same lineage.


Kit 73852

Kit 113987


Kit 126591

Comment:

Consistency in the matches of this line shows that it is a distinct Pace line and refutes the belief that they are descendents of John "the Tory" of the North Carolina/Richard line. 36/37 match between 11397 and 8025 would indicate that we have 36 markers of Frederick's DNA.


Evidence supporting
FREDERICK PACE of WALES

as ancestor of the Clarke County, Alabama, Paces

father of

Further information is found in the Clarke County, Alabama, Finding Aid, in the Pace Society Database available to Pace Society members,

1. The DEMPSEY PACE BIBLE
(can be found in the PSA database)

states that:

his parents were FREDERICK and ELIZABETH PACE.
This is the Dempsey Pace who died in Clarke Co, AL, in 1864.

2. The biography of WILLIAM PACE published in 1889 in "Biographical and Historical Memoirs of South Arkansas"

states that:

WILLIAM PACE...was born in Kentucky in 1807,
a son of JOHN and ELIZABETH PACE. The father [William’s father, John] was born in Wales about 1776*, a son of FREDERICK PACE who came to this country BEFORE the Revolutionary war. . . .
"  [WILLIAM was 13 or 14 years old when his father, JOHN, died in Clarke Co, AL, and probably heard this story from his father.]

3. The biography of Dr. J. M. Pace [Jesse, son of the above William] published in 1892 in "Memorial and Biographical History of Dallas" tells essentially the same story, but he also lists the other Clarke Co Paces (Dempsey and William) as sons of Frederick Pace.  ". . .  his great grandfather, Frederick Pace, was born in Wales and came to the United States in 1768, seven years before the Revolutionary War.  He was the father of five children, three sons and two daughters, all born in Wales.  William the eldest son,…was eleven years of age when he came to America,….John, the second son, and our subjects grandfather, was eight years of age....Dempsey, the third child of Frederick Pace, was six years of age. . . .”

4. The book A Glance into the Great Southeast, or Clarke County Alabama, and its Surroundings from 1650-1882” by Rev T.H. Ball.  He stated: [p. 522]  “John Pace, from South Carolina, after spending about a year in Kentucky and another in Tennessee, coming with Dempsey Pace, with a Parker family and some others, through the Chickasaw Indians, settled in 1809 about a mile and a half above Coffeeville…Dempsey Pace, named above, a brother, probably, of John Pace and a son of Frederick Pace of South Carolina, came in 1809.”

 Rev. Ball was a native of Indiana who lived in Clarke Co during the 1850's during which time he started up and taught at West Bend Academy.  He married a girl from Clarke Co, and he visited there several times during the 1870's while collecting material for his history.  He would have had the opportunity to know the Paces of the area including Dempsey Pace and his descendents as well as "Aunt Patsy" Pace, the widow of Stephen Pace who was a son of John Pace (d. Clarke, 1820/21). 

5. A paper written in 1885 by Fannie Pace Goodman who was a granddaughter of Dempsey Pace.  She stated “Dempsey Pace and John Pace, sons of Frederick Pace, left Virginia in 1790 and spent sometime in South Carolina, a year in Kentucky, one in Tennessee, coming through the Cherokee Indians County with other families…”

Bob Webb has analyzed this evidence and presents a very well reasoned perspective:

My goal is to put the different family traditions in perspective. I agree that the evidence does weigh in heavily that Frederick was Dempsey's father. I accept that without reservation. I'm still reluctant to say that Frederick was the immigrant ancestor of this line, but is rather the earliest known ancestor of the line. I'm still waffling on the idea that he was William and John's father. If not, he was certainly their brother. The math is shaky in Dr. Jesse Pace's account of the births of these men. We know he was off by about 13 years when he referred to Dempsey, the only one we have a decent birth year for (1775). Dr. Pace had Dempsey's birth year as 1762. He has John's birth date set at 1760 (Bruce Howard says 1761). I've often thought John was also younger than that.; closer to Dempsey in age, say 1773. John's wife Elizabeth was born about 1779-1780. When John died in 1821, he left a passel of young children, the youngest an infant. Was he 60 or in his late 40s? Dr. Pace contradicted himself when he said John died at the age of 40 of congestive chills (old medical terminology for malaria with diarrhea). 

That memory must have been a very vivid and direct one for John's son William of Arkansas, who was 13 at the time. I lean towards the later birth date for John. You could almost shoe-horn him in as an adult son of Frederick listed in the South Carolina census of 1800. Certainly works for Dempsey. Does this leave a problem with your ancestor William? If William was much younger, he would have missed service in the Revolution, and I'm not about to challenge that. By Dr. Pace's reckoning, William was born in 1757. His war record says he served in 1779. How young could he have been? Bruce Howard estimated his birth year at 1759, which is acceptable. Dr. Pace says he was 17 when he enlisted , which would make his birth year at about 1761-62. Yet Dr.  Pace says he lived to be four score years, which is 80. We know William died in Clarke County in 1826. William must have been 64-69 at the time of his death. Probably seemed like four-score to his young nephew and namesake.

A note about the birthplace of JOHN and DEMPSEY. John's son RICHMOND states on the 1880 Newton County, Miss. census that his parents were born in South Carolina. RICHMOND's younger brother JESSE MERCER PACE also states that his parents were born in South Carolina. In that same census year in Clarke County, Alabama, Dempsey's children state that he was born in South Carolina. The consistency is compelling. T. H. Ball referred to John "from South Carolina" and "Frederick of South Carolina."

Evidence of the existence of a Frederick Pace in South Carolina . This material was submitted to the Pace mailing list by Kim Strachener Zapalac on 1-17-2010.

This may be the first mention of the progenitor, Frederick Pace of Wales.

For those who also have Frederick Paces in this time period, please do not rule out the possibility that the person mentioned in the newspaper article is not yours. However, I am basing this person on supposed son and daughter-in-law's, William and Drucilla Pace, residence in Chesterfield County, SC, on the 1800 census. William's own son, Frederick Pace is too young to be this man. Please feel free to make any comments.

Source: South Carolina State Gazette, dated September 16, 1803, Page 1
 Repository: www. genealogybank.com
Transcribed by Kim Stracener Zapalac

"State of South-Carolina, Chesterfield district ss. [ss? - anyone know what this abbreviation stands for?]

At a court of General Sessions and Common Pleas, begun and holden for Chesterfield district, at Chesterfield court-house, on the fourth Monday in March, 1803, John Evans and Joel Norris, were duly returned summoned to appear and serve as Grand Ju-rors; and Isaac Course, Joseph J. Handcock, Christopher Vernon, Frederick Pace, Philip Hurst, Josiah Middleton, John Nicholson, German Berry, Nicholas Copeland and Hugh Blackeney, were duly returned summoned to appear and serve as petit and common plea jurors, who severally made default, and were noted for non-appearance.

 Notice is hereby given, that unless the afore-said jurors shall shew [yes, this was the way it was spelled] good and sufficient cause of excuse, upon oath, to any of the Associate Judges of the said state, at the next sitting of the said court, on the fourth Monday in Octo-ber next, that they will severally and respect-ively be fined agreeably to law.

 By the Court,

 ALEXANDER CRAIG, Clerk, 

Clerk's Office, 4th April, 1803."

Comment: Based on the dates given in the JM Pace biography above, Frederick would have been born in 1735 or before, allowing a year after his marriage before William was born and assuming he was at least 21 when he married, although earlier marriages were not uncommon. This Frederick would therefore have been at least in his 60s, possibly late 60s, in 1803, quite possibly the "Frederick Pace of Wales." At least we now have proof of a Frederick in the right time frame and in the right place.

 


Non-matching Paces
These Paces do not match
any of the lineages above


Kit 38697

This donor does not appear to be related to any of the other Paces in the study.


Kit #13552 Unsure (Son)
Kit #31372 Unsure

(Father)
See distant cousin kit no. 60597 below

This branch of the Pace family
does not appear to be related to any of the other Paces in the study.
There is no DNA match.

The lineage begins with the son, who is donor 13552


Kit #12269 ill - Unsure

See possible relationship to 3b - #137170

Comment:
By family tradition and census,
#3 Joseph B. Pace  is half brother to #1 Walther Eugene Pace in kit 131170
but DNA results suggest that they did NOT share the same father.


14944 - Unsure

Comment:
no apparent relationship to any of the others in the study.


PACE-HENDRIX

Comments in ARCHIVES - this line
click on links below - read comments

Pace-Frazier-Hendrix-Lawrence Co, TN
Ancestry of James Dean Pace
Undiscovered Pace Lineage - Benton Co, AR
William R. Pace, Tennessee
ROLL CALL - Your Earliest PACE Ancestor
Pace family in AR
Pace in AR cemeteries
William Pace, Maury Co. TN
Line of Albert Pace (not Alfred)
Pace/Decker, etc.


15541 Unsure


40018 - Unsure


Group 3b
Kit 7811 - Unsure

  1. 0. Donor
  2. 1. Father
  3. 2. Grandfather

  4. 3. JAMES DEAN PACE
      b 1835, Giles Co TN
    + spouse, HANNAH BELIEU (Documented)

  5. 4. THOMAS PACE
      b 1811, TN.
    + spouse, MARY HENDRIX (Documented)

  6. 5. WILLIAM PACE
      b ca 1775, where?
    + spouse, SARAH FRAZIER (Documented)

7811's DNA matches exactly
the DNA of two descendants of JOHN PACE and SARAH BURGH, This means that JAMES DEAN PACE is quite closely related to the Alsey/Alsa Pace who married CASSANDRA DEAN and also, suspected, closely related to ALSEY PACE who married SALLY STUMP.


Kit 49909 Unsure

+ Zilpha Pace is McDaniel Pace's mother without marriage.
Mc Daniel's Father’s name Daniel Sellers.

Note:

a check of Sellers DNA study shows
no match for this participant to any Sellers on the site.)

Comment:
Of course this line does not match Paces
as it descends from at least one and perhaps two females.

However, it is a Pace line and is of interest to Pace researchers.


93875 Unsure

No information available at this time (July 2007). Lineage has been requested.


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118620

Donor's comment: There is speculation,
but no proof that's come to my attention yet

Comment:
This donor does not match any other Paces in the database.
The speculation does not seem to be accurate.

In addition to the mismatch, the predicted haplogroup for this donor is R1a,
not found so far in any  other Pace. The Richard Pace descendents are R1b1.

Here is a description of this haplogroup:

A subclade of R1, R1a is a Y-chromosome haplogroup found at high frequency (more than 40%) from the Czech Republic across to the Altai Mountains in Siberia and south throughout Central Asia.[1]

R1a arose 15,000 years ago in the vicinity of Ukraine, expanding from either the Ukrainian LGM refuge following the end of the last ice age, or from the Pontic-Caspian steppe as a result of the Kurgan migrations.[2][3][4]. But some studies question these earlier findings and claim that R1a lineages may have its origin in North India [5][6] [7]. The expansion of R1a has been associated with the spread of the Indo-European languages


Kit 999999

Note that this donor submitted DNA to ancestry.com rather than Family Tree DNA. The number 999999 is not an FTDNA number but was assigned arbitrarily. This donor does not match with any other Paces and is our only submitter in haplogroup G.


Kit 151484

This donor was believed to be a possible Pees-Pace
or at least related to that line,
but the DNA results do not bear that out.


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Kit 148638

This donor was believed to be descended from William Pace/Ruth Lambert
but DNA does not match.

UK Paces
Including all Paces
who trace recent ancestry to the UK

Kit number 8033

Comment:
As shown in the chart, this donor has a perfect 25/25 match with all but one of group 2 who trace to John Pace of Middlesex. Relationship to these Paces is a near certainty.

An AMERICAN PACE in Washington state
of recent COLE County Missouri PACE ancestry whose 'DNA-37 marker test results' were only one marker number out from donor 8033 me, at left
of RECENT UK ANCESTRY

Kit number - 48329

  • 0. Donor (starsurfer AT compwrx.com)

  • 1. LUKE FRANCIS PACE 1890-1965
      b.25 May 1890, Centertown, Cole Co. MO
      d: 19 May 1965, Fort supply, Woodward Co. OK
      (my Father)
    + ROMANIA MAY BROWN
      b: 30 Apr 1911, Texhoma, TX
      d: 2 Feb 1990, Yakima WA

  • 2. JOSEPH GRIFFIN PACE 1832~1916 m 1874
    b: Nov. 30, 1832, IL/VA d: abt 1916
    + SARAH CATHERINE BYRD
    b 12 Oct 1852 MO m 1874 d ?

  • 3. JOHN R.PACE 1790-1868 m 1829
    b 18 Apr 1790 Albemerle Co VA
    d 6 Jul 1868, Camden Co MO

    + EMILY TAYLOR b 20 Jan 1803 KY
    m 1829 - d 17 Oct 1876 Camden Co MO


  • 4. BENJAMIN PACE b 1747 m 1784
    Middlesex Co Va. d:
    + (? Anne ROBINSON) b 13 Jan 1767 Goochland Co VA m 4 Oct 1784 d ?

  • 5. WILLIAM PACE 1711~1782 m 1733
    b: 25 Mar 1711, Middlesex Co VA
    d abt 1782 Albermarle Co VA

    + HANNAH BOOTEN b 1715 Middlesex Co VA m 26 Sep 1733 d Dec 1785 Albermarle Co VA

  • 6. JOHN PACE of Middlesex (Possible continued lineage based on DNA comparisons and good circumstantial evidence)b: 22 Sep. 1665-67, Wrockwardine, Shropshire, Eng.
  • 7. JOSEPH PACE b 1618 m 1653 (Josuah) b: 7 Jun 1618, Prees, Shropshire
    + MARGARET (? PALMER)- m 4 Mar 1653, High Ercall, Shropshire, Eng.

  • 8. ROLAND PACE b: abr 1595 Eng


EBER PACE's DNA is no mystery
we are trying to help locate his ancestry, back towards
JOHN PACE of Middlesex Co. VA.

EBER PACE's great grandson Dan's friend, Tanya has done considerable work in this research. Charles Hartley has already provided some marriage records which I've put in a chart, below. It would be great to help fulfill in this ancestry quest - gtp-8033

I am the Tanya who originally sent the email to Gordon (gtpace). My friend, Dan is an exact 37-marker match with him (8033-gtpace). However, we can only trace Dan's line back to his great grandfather, Eber Pace. The DNA results have already answered one important question; we know which group Dan belongs and he is descended from John Pace of Middlesex, Virginia. Now we need to determine the generations (estimated at 8 or 9) in between.

Here is the information I have on Eber:

I have found Eber on the:

Eber's place of birth is listed as Texas on all 3 census'.

I have yet to find proof of Eber and Amanda's marriage; the information came from family. I am still looking to find Eber and Amanda on the 1900 census.

Eber and Amanda had 9 children (3 sons, 6 daughters). Dan's grandfather was their oldest son, Charles Perry Pace (b 1903 OK, d 1968 CA).

This is all the information we have on this line. Any help or hints will be greatly appreciated.

CHARLES HARTLEY sent the following, copied from:

[Chickasaw Nation Marriages, Ardmore Courthouse - Groom Index, 1895-1907]

GROOM - AGE - BRIDE - AGE - DATE - RESIDENCE - BOOK©PAGE

PACE, C A 27 KENNEDY, KITTIE 20 26 DEC 1897 MENEKA C 269©1069
PACE, EBER 22 HOSKINS, M D 16 10 JAN 1897 ROFF B 480
PACE, ED 27 KERKSECK, STELLA 20 4 NOV 1906 WARUIKA/ADDINGTON J©544
PACE, J H 25 PARKER, DOLLIE 17 27 AUG 1898 LINNWOOD C 468©766
PACE, J T 27 HOLT, MINNIE 15 24 MAY 1898 BAILEY C 403©513
PACE, JOE 21 DAVENPORT, MAGGIE 16 3 DEC 1905 PAYNE/PURCELL J©28
PACE, T T 34 LITTELL, MAUDE 20 17 APR 1895 ARDMORE A 001©001

CH-It is possible that some of these listed with Eber are relatives.
gtp-Hopefully, that is what we will try to discover and his lineage, back to John of M

Groom Age Bride Age Date Residence Book
T T PACE 34 MAUDE LITTELL 20 17 APR 1895 ARDMORE A 001©001
EBER PACE 22 M D HOSKINS 16 10 JAN 1897 ROFF B 480
PACE, C A 27 KENNEDY, KITTIE 20 26 DEC 1897 MENEKA C 269©1069
PACE, J H 25 PARKER, DOLLIE 17 27 AUG 1898 LINNWOOD C 468©766
PACE, J T 27 HOLT, MINNIE 15 24 MAY 1898 BAILEY C 403©513
PACE, JOE 21 DAVENPORT, MAGGIE 16 3 DEC 1905 PAYNE/PURCELL J©28
PACE, ED 27 KERKSECK, STELLA 20 4 NOV 1906 WARUIKA/ADDINGTON J©544

Kit 8179 UK

(Antony Pace has asked that his full lineage be posted including current generation.)
Chris left
Antony Pace right
of London, England

NOTE:
Rotherhithe is across the Thames immediately opposite Wapping. Antony says his great grandfather was a barge builder. He matches 22/25 with our group 3, the main group believing themselves descended from RICHARD, but FTDNA says this is not a close enough match. The mismatch at DYS 390, a slow-changing allele, was especially significant in indicating a mismatch.

Where is Rotherhithe in LONDON ? - see where it is
Go to Google Maps - click on this
NOTICE - The Mile / Km SCALE
is now in the LOWER RIGHT CORNER - easy to overlook.

GERMAN PACES

who derive their name from Pees

Explanation:

  1. in German, Pees would be pronounced almost exactly like Pace,
  2. the double e taking a sound like a long a.  
  3. Therefore, in the US it was natural for them to change the spelling to the American way.
  4. They are not related to the English Paces.

This group has traced ancestry to Baumholder, Germany. It will be interesting to see if some of the undetermined lines of Paces. As of this date (Feb. 2007) there are no matches.

WHERE is BAUMHOLDER in GERMANY ?
Click on this - Google Maps

NOTE: Donor 47110's ancestors DID NOT change their name to PACE
but the evidence shows they are related going back to Baumholder, Germany.

SOME EMAILS are in the PACE Mail List ARCHIVES
that may help a researcher working on this PACE-PEES Line


when reading an email in the archives, always look at the bottom to see
if there is a list of emails from people responding to the original request.

To reply - click on the arrow, found to the right, under the text of the email.


GERMAN PACES

Kit #20553

  • 0. donor
  • 1. Father:
    RALPH W. PACE
      b 16 Apr 1910 - (birth certificate)
  • 2. Grandfather:
    JAMES EDWIN PACE
      b 14 Dec 1872 - (family records)
  • 3. Great Grandfather:
    GEORGE MILTON PACE
      b. 9 Jan1837 - (family records)
  • 4. Great Great Grandfather:
    ELISHA PACE
      b. 1 Oct 1805 - (family records)
  • 5. Great Great Great Grandfather:
    DAVID PACE
      b. 4 Sept 1771 - (family records)
  • 6. Great Great Great Great Grandfather:
    JOHANN MICHAEL PACE/PEES
      b. 1 July 1732
      (Early Germans of New Jersey
      church records in Baumholder, Germany)
  • 7. G G G G G Grandfather:  Hans Michel Pees b 21 Apr 1691
    (Church records in Baumholder, Germany)
  • 8. G G G G G G Grandfather:  Johannes Pees  b 1643
    (Church records in Baumholder, Germany)
    Lineage of .....


Kit 47110

  • 0. Donor
  • 1. Father:
    HOMER GLEN PEES
      b. 2 Nov 1931, Washington County, PA
      died 1994, Washington County, PA
      Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA
    + Married NANCY ELLEN DUVALL
      daughter of RAYMOND DUVALL and RENA FORMECK
      She was born June 17, 1939 in Washington County, PA

  • 2. Grandfather:
    GLEN ELMER PEES
      b. 3 Oct 1890, Washington County, PA
      d. 3 Jan 1962, Washington County, PA
    + Married ZOETTA CLEMENS
      She was born September 03, 1897

  • 3. G-Grandfather:
    JAMES FRANKLIN PEES
      b. 8 Apr 1854, Washington County, PA
      d. 1933, Washington County, PA
      Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA
    + Married ELIZABETH AMOS
      daughter of HENRY AMOS and MARTHA HARRIS
      She was born 1855, and died 1899

  • 4. G-G-Grandfather:
    NICHOLAS PEES
      b. 1806, Washington County, PA
      d. 1877, Washington County, PA
      Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA
    + Married ELIZABETH WALLER
      She was born 1812, and died 1885

  • 5. G-G-G-Grandfather:
    GEORGE PEES
      b. 30 Jul 1770, Conococheague, MD
      d. 1849, Washington County, PA
      Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA
    + Married LYDIA VAUGHN
      daughter of JOHN VAUGHN and MARY CHEESEMAN
      She was born 1772, and died 1865

  • 6. G-G-G-G-Grandfather:
    NICHOLAS PEES
      b. 1713 in Germany
      d. 1818 in Washington County, PA
      Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA
    + Married HANNAH UNKNOWN

Comment:
DNA match of 24/25 with 20553 indicates probable relationship despite lack of common records.

WASHINGTON County, Pennsylvania is south west of PITTSBURG
Google Maps - see map-click here https://www.google.com/maps/place/Washington+County,+PA,+USA/@40.2149345,-80.1791395,9z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x883454885cb3b9ef:0x72d8959d8700e22d


The following entry comes from Ancestry.com.
The submitter has asked that his name be included.

  • He traces to Pennsylvania
  • and matches with the German Pees-Pace line.
  • His ancestors spelled it " P a s e ".
Kit # Ancestry1
  • 0. Dale Leonard Pase (the donor)
  • 1. Leonard Bryan Pase
  • 2. Christian Carl Pase
      b 17 Dec 1895 West Virginia
      d 15 May 1980
  • 3. Andrew Jackson Pase
      b 1856 Pennsylvania
      d 1943 West Virginia
  • 4. Jacob Pase
      b 1828 Pennsylvanis
      d Tucker, West Virginia

Kit # 157411

  • Donor
  • LAWRENCE ELMER PACE Jr. 1922-2007
    .....born 9-29-1922 died June 2007 Wilkes-Barre, PA
  • LAWRENCE ELMER PACE Sr. 1900-1945
    .....born 2-13-1900; died 12-11-1945 Wilkes-Barre,PA
  • CHARLES PACE 1873-1964
    .....born 10-31-1873 died 1964 in Wilkes-Barre, PA
  • JOHN PACE 1825-1902
    .....born Elizabeth, NJ 1825; died 1902 Harveyville, PA
     


PACE ARCHIVES - search word "GERMAN" brings up Roy Johnson emails and replies from servicemen plus more info on the NJ - ON German Pace line:

High and low German and Bavarian
High and low German and Bavarian
Same Topic-reply
Same Topic-reply
First Germans at Jamestown
Paces in PA and NJ
German PACE's of NJ
NJ/German PACE's (cont.)
Michael William PACE (cont...)
Michael William PACE (some clarification)
PACE's from Holland?
Re:PACE's from Holland?
Re:PACE's from Holland?
PACE-QUACKENBUSH in Ontario 1871 census
Re:PACE-QUACKENBUSH in Ontario 1871 census
Re:PACE-QUACKENBUSH in Ontario 1871 census
PACE/PEES from Prussia
Re: [PACE-L] Michael William PACE (some clarification)


Kit #12280

  • 0. donor
  • WILLY BURTON SMITH
  • LORENZO DOW "Dow" SMITH
      born 13 Oct 1855 (grave stone) LYERLY, Chatooga Co GEORGIA
      but death cert. etc. suggest 1853
      died 2 Feb 1921 YANTIS, Wood Co TEXAS
    + 1st NANCY THOMPSON
    + 2nd IDA CORILLA MORRISON - 3rd husband LYERLY GA
    born 27 May 1869 CROSS PLAINS, Calhoun Co AL
    died YANTIS, Wood Co TEXAS

  • JOHN SMITH
    born abt 1816 KNOX Co TENNESSEE
    died after 1883 in CHATOOGA Co GEORGIA

    + LYDIA PENNINGER
    born abt 1815 in CABARRUS Co NC
    died after 1880 in CHATOOGA Co GEORGIA

  • JOHN SMITH
    born abt 1785 probably
    PENNSYLVANIA but maybe VIRGINIA
    died abt 1830 KNOX County TENNESSEE

    + REBECCA McCOY
    born abt 1781 VA married 28 Apr 1809 BLOUNT Co TENNESSEE
    d/o ENOCH McCOY/McKAY & SARAH BORDEN

This entry
  1. From a person surnamed SMITH
  2. DID NOT match
    with anyone in the SMITH study
  3. BUT DID MATCH
    with our GERMAN Pees-Pace entry.

  4. He is exploring the possibility of a name change somewhere in his ancestry and thinks he might be a Pees-Pace.
  5. Marker 23 has changed from 14 to 12 compared to donor 20553
    who is a German Pace/Pees donor.
  6. This is a fast moving marker.
  7. The two step difference in this allele
    makes the administrator a bit skeptical
    but it is certainly possible.

ITALIAN PACES

  1. THE PACE NAME seems to have two distinct origins:  England and Italy. 
  2. It appears from the evidence that the name evolved
    separately in these two locations and the DNA evidence so far would indicate that
    ENGLISH and ITALIAN PACES are not related.
  3. IN BOTH CASES,
    there seems to be some relation of the PACE NAME to the word "PEACE" and in fact, in Italian, Pace (pronounced "pah-chee") means peace.

The Pace DNA project
is interested also in ITALIAN PACES
and would like more submissions.

N13364 To be submitted later
N11718 To be submitted later

95418

  1. 0 donor
  2. father (living)
  3. Grandfather GAETANO PACE
      b. January 27, 1913
      d. January 24, 1992
      Born Pittston, PA - Died Whittier, CA
  4. Great grandfather FRANCESCO (FRANK) PACE
      b. Dec. 11, 1875 in Sicily
      d. Sept. 14, 1942, Buffalo, NY


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