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Pace DNA Donors
To preserve privacy
last updated
May 3, 2009 RWJ
donor's name, father's name, and grandfather's name are concealed
unless the donor requests otherwise.Brief explanation:
These are the main groups of Paces, according to the DNA evidence
- Descendents of John Pace of Middlesex County, VA.
- Descendents of Richard, James, and John Pace of North Carolina (John b. 1732), believed to be the sons of "Richard Pace II", grandson of Richard of Jamestown. DNA and other evidence has divided this line into two sub-groups, 3a and 3b. DNA evidence and analysis by FTDNA indicate that group 3b and 3a have a common ancestor within the time span for Richard of Jamestown. Recent discussion on Pace mailing list suggests the above Richard to be the son of a George Pace (Richard>George>"Richard II">George).
- Descendents of Frederick Pace of ?Wales (Note: Wales is used only as an identifier; this origin is not verified)
- Paces of unsure or unmatching lineage.
- UK Paces, born in the United Kingdom or descended from more recent immigrants.
- German Paces, who changed their name from Pees to Pace after arriving in the US.
- Italian Paces. The Pace name seems to have originated independently in England and Italy.
Donors who cited John of Middlesex as ancestor
Kit #6281 J-Jr - John,John,William
NOTE: This is a donor who seems to have a firm set of records leading to John of Middlesex,
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. JOHN PACE
b Oct 1816 Marshall Co Kentucky
d 13 July 1890 Salem, Dent Co.MO
+ MARY (Polly) CORNWELL
- 4. JOEL PACE
b 1790 d 29 Sept 1843
+ SALLY COPE
- 5. SPENCER PACE
b ca 1763- Prob. Amelia Co.VA
d 10 July 1849 - Marshall Co.Kentucky
+ MARY HAYMES
- 6. WILLIAM PACE
b ca. 1724 Prob. Middlesex Co Virginia
d 1799 Henry Co.VA
+ SUSANNA WEST
- 7. JOHN PACE Jr. 1696-1734
b ca. 1696 d 25 Nov.1734
+ ELIZABETH MONTAGUE
- 8. JOHN PACE Sr.
of Middlesex County Virginia
+ ELIZABETH ? NEWSOME ?
but the DNA says he is not related, nor does he match with any other Pace in the study.
Kit #6501 J-Jr - John,John,William
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. THOMAS NUNN PACE b. 12-5-1801 d 5-4-1893
+ DOSIA WILLIAMS
- 4. WILLIAM INGRAM PACE b. 7-8-1773 d. 12-18-1843
+ SALLY NUNN
- 5. (Captain) JOHN PACE b. 5-28-1751 d. 4-11-1797
+ ELIZABETH NUNN
- 6. WILLIAM PACE 1724-1750
+ SUSANNA WEST
- 7. JOHN PACE Jr. b. 1696 d. 1734
+ ELIZABETH MONTAGUEontague
- 8. JOHN PACE of Middlesex ? - 1720
+ ELIZABETH ? NEWSOME ?Comment: Although the two individuals above cite common ancestry from William Pace on back, DNA results indicate that they are NOT related.
Kit #6379 J-Jo - John,Joseph,John
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. RICHARD FOSTER PACE 1849-1928
+ SEREPTA ANN ADAMS
- 4. DANIEL RICE PACE 1818-1896
+ MARTHA A. KEARBY
- 5. EDWARD "Neddie" Pace 1790-1874
+ ELIZABETH POTTER
- 6.
WILLIAM HENRY PACE 1745-1815
+ MARY WININGER
- 7. JOHN H. PACE 1721/22-1790
+ SUSANNA HOUCHINS
- 8. JOSEPH PACE 1697-1765
+ ANN BASFORD
- 9. JOHN PACE (of Middlesex) 1665-1720/21
+ ELIZABETH ? NEWSOME?Note common ancestry to William Henry Pace with 35533 below. See related 1907 letter from descendent Edward Pace 1837-1925.
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. SOLOMON WININGER PACE
Born May, 1836 in Jackson Co., Alabama
Died after 1910 in Alabama
Married to: NANCY - Born 1835 and Died after 1880
- 4 WILLIAM PACE Jr. 1790-1878
Born 1790 in Virginia
Died 1878 in Jackson, Alabama
Married to: ELIZABETH WININGER - Born 1798 and Died 1878 in Alabama
- 5 WILLIAM PACE Sr. 1745-1815
Born October, 1745 in Goochland, Virginia
Served in GEORGE WASHINGTON's Life Guards during Revolutionary War
Died about 1815 in Scott County, Virginia
Married to: MARY WININGER
- 6. JOHN H. Pace 1722-1790
Born Apr 8 1722 Middlesex Co.VA
served in Revolutionary War
Died Sept 20 1790 Goochland Co.VA
+ SUZANNAH HOUCHINS
married 1743 Goochland C.VA
- 7 JOSEPH PACE 1698-1765
Died Goochland Co.VA
+ ANN BASFORD
married 18 Mar 1721 Middlesex Co.VA
- 8 JOHN PACE of Middlesex Co.VA
0. Donor (starsurfer AT compwrx.com)
1. LUKE FRANCIS PACE b.25 May 1890, Centertown, Cole Co. Mo., d: 19 May 1965, Fort supply, Woodward Co. Ok. (my Father)
+ Romania May Brown b: 30 Apr 1911, Texhoma, TX. d: 2 Feb 1990, Yakima Wa.
2. JOSEPH GRIFFIN PACE b: Nov. 30, 1832, IL/Va.. d: abt 1916
+ Sarah Catherine Byrd b: 12 Oct., 1852, Mo. m:1874 d:
3. JOHN R.PACE b: 18 Apr 1790, Albemarle Co., Va. d: 6 Jul., 1868, Camden Co. Mo.
+ Emily Taylor b: 20 Jan 1803, Ky. m: 1829 d: 17 Oct 1876 Camden Co.
Mo.
4. BENJAMIN PACE b: 1747, Middlesex Co., Va. d:
+ (? Anne Robinson) b: 13 jan., 1767, Goochland Co. Va. m:4 Oct. 1784
d:
5. William Pace b: 25 Mar., 1711, Middlesex Co. Va., d: abt 1782, Albemarle
Co., Va. + Hannah Booten b: 1715 Middlesex Co., Va. m: 26 Sep. 1733 d: Dec. 1785
Albermarle Co., Va.
6. John Pace (of Middlesex)(Possible continued lineage based on DNA comparisons and circumstantial evidence)
b: 22 Sep., 1665-67, Wrockwardine, Shropshire, Eng.
7. Joseph Pace (Joshua) b: 7 Jun 1618, Prees, Shropshire, Eng.
+ Margaret (? Palmer)m: 4 Mar. 1653, High Ercall, Shropshire, Eng.
Kit 141809
0. donor
1. Father
2. Harvey Mason Pace, Sr. b. 11 Nov. 1892 d. 22 Feb. 1974 Richmond, VA ( Henrico Co.) + Lydia Blanch Melton
3. Eldridge Tucker Pace b.13 Oct. 1869 d. 28 Jan. 1970 Richmond, VA ( Henrico Co.) + Martha Elizabeth McCall
4. Henry Harrison Pace b. 26 July 1839 d. 27 Dec 1912 Goochland, VA + Mary Taylor Jenkins
5. Joseph Pace b. about 1804 + Mary GravesComment: This kit is an exact 67/67 match with kit 48329 above and matches 37/37 and 25/25 with the modal (most common result) for the John of Middlesex group. This is not surprising due to the Goochland origins of the submitted lineage.
Kit 47737 JM Jr John>Joseph>John [jhpacerd AT charter.net]
0 Donor
1 DEWEY FINIS PACE b. 21 Feb 1919 d. 19 Jul 2003
2 WILLIAM LUTHER PACE 1882-1931
b July 19 1882 d 27 May 1931 Brownfield, Terry Co. TX
m. RUTH WILSON3 JOSEPH FOSTER PACE b. Nov 26 1843 or 26
m. ETNA GASKILL b. Nov 29 1854 Glen Rose, Somervell Co. TX4 DAVID FOSTER PACE b. 13 Nov 1812 - d. after 1880
+ Gracy Ann WALTERS (1816-1876) Warren and Barren Co, KY5 JOSEPH PACE b. 1776 - d.1885 in Barren Co, KY
married MARTHA FOSTER 1782-18436 WILLIAM HENRY Pace b 10 Oct 1745 d 1815 who m
+ (2) MARY WINEINGER7 JOHN H. Pace who m
+ SUSANNAH HOUCHINS8 JOSEPH PACE who m
+ ANN BASFORD9 JOHN PACE Sr. (of Middlesex Co, VA)
+ ELIZABETH (?Newsome?)
Kit No. 25581 John, Joseph, John
- 0 Donor
- 1 VOLNEY CONRAD PACE b Mar 6, 1908, Rookins, Saint Clair County, MO
d November 4, 1976, Kansas City, Kansas (Documented)
- 2 EDWARD PERKINS PACE b June 25, 1862, Collins, Saint Clair County, MO
d January 17, 1941, Pape, Saint Clair County, MO (Documented)
- 3 MICHAEL PERKINS PACE b April 15, 1834, Pittsylvania County, VA
d September 02, 1905 Collins, Saint Clair, County, MO Documented)
- 4 FRANCIS PACE II b 17, 1798, Pittsylvania County VA
d Nov 07, 1883, Saint Clair County, MO (Documented)
- 5 FRANCIS PACE I. Nov 25, 1764, Goochland County, VA (Documented)
died June 20, 1842, Pittsylvania County, VA (Not Documented)
- 6 JOHN PACE Mar 14, 1721/22, Middlesex County, VA
Sept 20, 1790 Saint James, Goochland County, VA (Documented p/will)
- 7 JOSEPH PACE, Sr. b. Abt. 1698, Middlesex County, VA
d April 18, 1765, Little Byrd Crk., Goochland County, Virginia
- 8 John Pace of Middelsex
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. JOHN PACE 1816-1890
+ MARY (Polly) CORNWELL
- born Marshall Co.Kentucky
- died 13, July 1890 Salem, Dent Co.MO.
- 4 EDWARD PACE
+ 1 MATHILDA ADDISON, 1819, Clark County, KY
- born 1797, Fluvanna County, VA
- died Bef. 1850, Clark County, KY
+ 2 NANCY JUDY, 06 SEP 1825, Clark County, KY
- 5 MURRAY PACE 1751-1830
m MARY BRAGG, 02 JAN 1783, Goochland Co.VA
- born Goochland Co.VA
- died Clark Co.KY
- 6. JOHN PACE 1722-1790
b Middlesex Co.VA d Goochland Co.VA
SUSANNAH HOUCHINS ?-1808.
- 7. JOSEPH PACE 1698-1765 b Middlesex Co VA
+ ANN BASHFORD.
- 8. JOHN PACE of Middlesex County VA?
Kit #9599 J-Jo - John,Joseph,John
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. THOMAS L. PACE 1798-1875
born July 31, 1798 in St. Joseph Missouri
died December 12 1875 in St. Joseph, Missouri
+ HESTER TURNER
- 4. JAMES PACE 1772-1844
born November 25 1772 Goochland Co Virginia
died in 1844 in Weston, Platte, Mo.
+ LYDIA DRAKE
- 5. JOHN PACE 1722-1790
born March 14, 1722, died 1790 and his first wife
+ SUSANNA HUTCHINGS (Houchins) married 1743.
- 6. JOSEPH PACE 1698-1765
born 1698 Middlesex County Virginia died April 18 1765
+ ANN BASFORD married April 18 1721
- 7. JOHN PACE
born in Middlesex County, Virginia
died December 2 1720 Middlesex County, Virginia
+ ELIZABETH ?NEWSOME?
Kit# 25581 J-Jo - John,Joseph,John
- 0. Donor
- 1. VOLNEY CONRAD PACE b. Mar 6, 1908, Rookins, Saint Clair County, MO
d November 4, 1976, Kansas City, Kansas (Documented)
- 2.EDWARD PERKINS PACE b June 25, 1862, Collins, Saint Clair County, MO
d January 17, 1941, Pape, Saint Clair County, MO
- 3. MICHAEL PERKINS PACE
b. 15 Apr 1834, Pittsylvania County, VA
d 02 Sept Collins, St. Clair Co MO
- 4. FRANCIS PACE II
b 17 Nov 1798 Pittsylvania Co VA
d 7 Nov 1883 St Clair Co MO
- 5. FRANCIS PACE
b 25 Nov 1764 Goochland Co VA
d 20 Jun 1842 Pittsylvania Co VA
- 6. JOHN PACE
b 14 Mar 1721/22 Middlesex Co VA
d 20 Sept 1790 St James Goochland Co VA
- 7. JOSEPH PACE Sr. b abt 1698 Middlesex Co VA
d 18 Apr 1765 Little Bird Creek Goochland Co. VA
- 8. JOHN PACE d abt 1720/21
+ ELIZABETH ?NEWSOME? Middlesex Co. VAThe above documented by personal research in early generations and by
Pace Society records in generations 5-8.Kit #7901 J-B - John,Benjamin,Benjamin
- 0. Donor
- Father
- Grandfather
- William Andrew PACE
b 02 Sep1843 Albemarle Co VA
+ Mary Ann Ricks- Jesse PACE b Abt 1810 Albemarle Co, VA
+ Nancy B. Moore- George PACE b Abt 1791 Goochland Co, VA
+ Margaret Mullins
(From this point on this lineage is disputed.
The following is Bruce Howard's theory.
Others believe it more probable that the following Benjamin Pace is not the one who married Ann Robinson,
but could be a descendent of John of Middlesex's son William.)
- Benjamin Franklin PACE
b 28 Jan1746/47 Middlesex Co VA
+ Ann Robinson- Benjamin PACE
+ Frances Williamson- John PACE of Middlesex
arden
Kit 10110 J-B
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. WILLIAM HACKADAY PACE
+ MARY ELIZABETH DAVIS m. 1845
- 4. Rev. JOHN PACE
+ MARGARET IRVINE m. 1794
- 5. BENJAMIN PACE
+ FRANCES WILLIAMSON m 1749
- 6. BENJAMIN PACE
+ MARY Abt. 1724
- 7. JOHN PACE of Middlesex
+ ELIZABETH ?NEWSOME?
Note: The two Benjamin Paces above may be the same person, two wives, but this does not affect the descendency.Kit 8749 J-W - John,William,John
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. RICHARD ALPHONSE PACE
b 1863 VA d bef. 1913 Fluvanna Co
+ MARY SUSAN GREGORY 1865-1954.
- 4. JOHN R. PACE b. 1809 VA, d. 1892 VA
+ ELIZABETH P. b 1814 VA
On 1870 census Fluvanna Co, VA. Family is closely associated with Wilkersons- 5. JOHN PACE Jr. b. 1781 Fluvanna Co, VA
+ BETSY WILKERSON b 1785 m 1803
On 1810 and 1830 census Fluvanna Co VA
- 6. JOHN PACE b. 10/31/1740 Middlesex Co, VA, d. bef. 1810
+ ANN "Nanny" PACE b Abt 1755 m 1774
Nanny on 1810 and 1820 census Fluvanna Co, VA- 7. WILLIAM PACE b 3/25/1711 Middlesex d abt 1782
+ HANNAH BOOTEN 1715-1785 m 1733- 8. JOHN PACE of Middlesex
- 0. Donor
- JAMES SYLVESTER PACE b 12-10-1910, Garden City, KA
d 11-23-1985, Milton, FL
m GLADYS FERN (Dixon) married in 1940, Lake Co ILL
- FLOYD WILLIAM PACE my Grandfather b 1874 (about) KY d believed to have been in the late 1940’s in KA
m: ADA MAE (BLAIR) in 1907, in KA
- JAMES McCLUNG PACE b 4-16-1851 Edmonson Co KY d 3-31-1926, KA
+ SUSANNA (Sarah or Sadie) (HAWKINS), on 11-22-1877, Edmonson Co KY
- BENJAMIN J. PACE b 1801, Goochland Co VA d 10-17-18 59, Edmonson Co KY
+ CATHERINE B. (HAWKINS), on 10-16-1828
- EDWARD M PACE Sr b 1761 VA d 1820, VA
+ SUSANNA (JOHNSON)
- JOHN HENRY PACE b 3-14-1720/21 Middlesex Co VA d 9-20-1790 Middlesex Co VA
+ SUSANNA (HOUCHINS)
- JOHN PACE Jr b 1698, (about) Middlesex Co VA
d 1-18-1765, Middlesex Co., VAJOHN of Middlesex d 1-20-1720/21, Middlesex Co VA
+ ELIZABETH
Kit 88920
- 1. Donor
- 2. Father
- 3. FRANK HOUCHENS PACE Born 06-22-1902, VA
Died 07-16-1987 Buried Monticello Gardens, Charlottesville, VA
- 4. WALTER WATSON PACE Born 09-26-1876, Cunningham, Fluvanna Co VA
+ 2nd Marriage 1912 to MARY SUSAN MOLLIE GREGORY
Born June 1867 Died 01-31-1968
- 5. JOHN HARTWELL PACE Born: 1853, Cunningham, Fluvanna Co VA
Married 05-27-1875 to FANNIE HOUCHENS Born 1857
Cunningham, Fluvanna Co VA Died 02-10-1934
Continued lineage, thanks to several nice Paces on the Pace mailing list
- 6. JESSE H PACE listed in 1860 Fluvanna census as "carpenter" age 37 with wife MARTHA and son JOHN H, 6, and in 1870 census with son JOHN H 16, both listed as "cooper" (barrel maker). Age of JOHN H is consistent with JOHN HARTWELL above.
There is a JOHN R PACE, listed in Fluvanna 1870 age 62 census as "cooper", wife Elizabeth age 56 , possibly related but too young to be parents of Jesse. Jesse is listed in that census as age 45. That would make John just 17 and Elizabeth 11 when Jesse was born.NOTE:
Gordon Pace of Canada is NOT descended from John of Middlesex, but his DNA showed 25/25 match with a majority of John of M descendents. This implies probable descent from a close relative of John, and it is likely that the common ancestor is no more than three generations before John. Click to see his descent from Shropshire/Staffordshire Paces. This evidence plus naming similarities are strong evidence that John of M is descended from these Paces on the Welsh border, rather than from the London Paces of Richard Pace descent.
Explanation: This person from the Pierce surname study has a 25/25 match with most John of Middlesex Paces, and does not match with anyone in the Pierce study. The names Pace and Pierce were often interchanged, especially in England, where the same person was listed as Pierce one time and Pace the next. The submitted lineage and other internet study by myself and the Pierce administrator leads us to doubt that he is a John of M descendent; however, the DNA match indicates a probable relationship back in England.
1. JEREMIAH PIERCE is thought to have been born in 1710 in Essex County, Virginia. (This is an unverified entry.)
2. ISAAC PIERCE was the only known child of Jeremiah Pierce and Elizabeth. He was born in Caroline County, Virginia after 1735. He was living in Orange County, Virginia on July 27, 1783 when he and his wife ANN deeded 100 acres of land to their son FRANCIS PIERCE. It is believed that he died in Orange County prior to 1791?
3. FRANCIS PIERCE (Aug. 1760-Feb. 22, 1853) married about 1782 ELIZABETH LEWIS, daughter of James Lewis. (LEWIS name not verified) Born in Caroline County, Virginia and moved to Orange Co., Virginia when he was 10 years old. After marriage, they moved to Wilkes County, North Carolina about 1784. In 1801 he sold his land then removed to Cumberland County, Kentucky (later named Clinton, County in 1837) where he had received a Land Grant for 200 acres of land near the Central Grove churchouse, on Spring Creek of the Wolf River and lived there until his death in 1853.
4. JOHN PIERCE (1789-1854) He was born October 11, 1789 on a farm on Kings Creek, Wilkes County, North Carolina and moved with his parents to Cumberland (Clinton) County, Kentucky about 1801. He moved to Christian County, Kentucky before 1818, south of Hopkinsville near Church Hill and bought a farm located one mile east of Hebron Church on what is now called the James Roy Cayce farm. This begins the family genealogy of the Pierce Family in Christian County which follows; he served as a Sergeant in the War of 1812, in the 20th Regiment of the U. S. Infantry from March 12,1812 to December 1, 1814. He married SARAH (SALLY) ALLEN, on February 22, 1818, born: January 8, 1799 and died: December 29, 1878, She was born in Alexandria, Virginia, daughter of Henry Allen, Born: September 4, 1773, died: November 6, 1841 and Elizabeth Summers Allen. Born: 1782, Died: 1836 (burried in the Pioneer Graveyard in Hopkinsville, Ky). The Pierce graveyard is located on the James Roy Cayce farm 1.2 miles east of Hebron Methodist Church and is registered with the State of Kentucky Historical Society.
5. GEORGE ROBIN PIERCE was born January 10, 1836. He married ELVIRA MCCLAREN STEGER on November 18, 1862. He died Aug 19, 1919. The GEORGE ROBIN PIERCE family lived on the JOHN PIERCE homeplace 1.2 miles east of the Hebron Methodist Church, Christian County, Kentucky.
6. CHARLES LUCIAN PIERCE was born July 23, 1878. He married EDNA ASHTON ADAMS on February 11, 1911. He died April 9, 1958.
7. JAMES ADAMS PIERCE was born Dec 7, 1911. He married ELLEN MCCRAE on April 16, 1935. He died on February 20, 1999.Donors who cited one of the believed sons of "Richard Pace II" as ancestor ("Richard III", James, or John)
(Red letters show common ancestors among donors)
NOTE:
Our DNA evidence has divided this group clearly into two sub-groups. At first, FTDNA thought they were not related, but with our persistent requests for a review, it was decided that they are indeed one group. However, there is a marked difference, with a difference of two in marker 6 and one in marker 21.This indicates that one of the descendents of the patriarchal ancestor must have had a double mutation in one allele and a single mutation in the other. It is most unlikely that such a combination would occur twice; therefore, even though the DNA evidence contradicts some of the submitted lineages, it is likely that the DNA evidence is correct. Group 3a:
Kit #6352 - Richard,Richard,Richard
- 0. Doner
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. WILLIAM S. PACE b 1826 GA d 1863 (P.O.W) Indianapolis, IN; m.
+ MARY JANE DOZIER (1850 census; D.E. Pace will)- 4. DREADZIL EVANS PACE b 1805 SC d 1852 Talladega Co (Now Clay), AL;
+ MELITA LEVERETT (Wm Pace Bible; B. Pace Lt.; Tombstone)
- 5. WILLIAM PACE b 1772 SC d 1835 Jasper Co GA
+ LUCRETIA ROBINSON GARDNER (Wm. Pace Bible; B. Pace Ltr.)- 6. DRURY PACE b 1745 Northampton Co NC d 1801 Richmond Co GA
+ m. MARY BUSSEY (B. Pace Ltr; Richmond Co GA will)
- 7. RICHARD PACE b abt 1699 VA
d bef 1776 Edgefield District SC
+ Elizabeth Cain. --- (Barnabus Pace Ltr.)- 8. RICHARD PACE, b abt 1676 VA
d 1736 Bertie Co NC
+ Rebecca ___?- 9. RICHARD PACE b abt 1638 VA
d abt 1677 VA
+ MARY BAKER (?)
Group 3a
Kit #14184 - Richard,Richard,Silas
- O. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. WILLIAM PACE born in GA, died between 1860 and 1866 (federal and state census)
+ MARY ANN POLLARD 1847 Marion County, GA (marriage record).- 4. WILLIAM PACE died before May 1823 Bibb County GA (newspaper and court records)
- + BATHENA COX about 1800
- + PATSY HIXON 1823 Columbia County, GA (marriage record)
- 5. SILAS PACE born about 1726 VA
died abt 1802 Edgefield County SC (court records)
+ MARY NEWSOME married about 1747- 6. RICHARD PACE born about 1700 VA died about 1775
+ ELIZABETH CAIN about 1723- 7.RICHARD PACE born about 1665 VA died about 1738 NC
+ Rebecca about 1699
0. Donor
1. Father
2, Amos Gideon Pace
3. Richard Randall Pace
4. Dredzil Evans Pace 12/25/18051805-1852
5. William Pace b. abt 1772 SC m. Lucretia Lazenby
6. Drury Pace b. 10/1745 Craven Co, NC, m. Mary Bussey
7. Richard Pace b. 1700 VA, m. Elizabeth Cain
8. Richard Pace b. 1661 Charles City Co, VA m RebeccaInformation from Dredzil Evans Pace on back supplied by Gordon W. Pace
Donor
Father
Charles S. Pace b. 7/26/1879 Canada d. 11/2/1936 U.S.A.
Ebenezer Pace b. 1/28/1809 Canada d. 3/6/1885 Canada
Thomas Pace b. ca 1775 d. ??
James Pace b. ca 1724 d. ca 1784
Richard Pace IV b. ca 1699 d. ca 1775 + Elizabeth Cain
Richard Pace III b. ca 1655/1675 d. ca 1738
Richard Pace II b. ca 1637 d. 11/17/1677
George Pace b. ca 1609 d. ca 1655
Richard Pace I b. ca 1585 d. ca 1627
Hardy Pace 1784-1836 (buried in Cochran, GA)
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. Thomas B. Pace 1813-1890 ( " " " )
- 4.
5. Thomas Pace 1750-1795 or John Pace II (1696-1761)
6. Thomas Pace 1704-1765 or John Pace I (1668-1727)
7. Richard Pace 1655-1736 or '38
8. Richard Pace 1637-1677 but DNA shows common ancestry with this group (3a)
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. Eli Pace, b. 10 Oct 1835, Dist. of Bevil (Jasper Co.,) Texas,
d. 19 Apr 1923, Jasper Co., TX, m. Nancy Henderson
- 4. Hardy Pace, b. 7 Oct 1807, Georgia, d. 2 May 1880, Jasper Co.,
Texas, m. Mahalla Isaacks
- 5. Hardy's father is unknown at this time. His mother was Susan
Hutchins, who married 2nd Jerrod Berry, and 3rd Thomas Watts.
We feel Hardy's father is connected to
the north GEORGIA Paces,
where the name HARDY is prevalent,
but have never been able to document a connection.We hope this DNA project
helps us finally find the rest of the family tree!!Comment:
DNA results show this individual to have common ancestry with others who believe themselves descended from Richard II group 3a, so I have listed him under this heading.
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 3. JOHN PACE b. 1832, Tennessee d. 5 Jan 1865, Columbus, Ohio &
+ MINERVA JANE BATTON
- 4. ISAAC PACE b 1798, Georgia d. 27 Oct 1857, Perry County, TN & Unknown
- 5. WILLIAM PACE Sr.
RUTH LAMBERT
- born abt 1750/1751, Granville, NC
- died bet 1830/1837, Rutherford County, TN
(Disputed from this point on)
- 6. WILLIAM PACE* b. abt 1716/1720, Prince George County, Va. d. 25 Feb 1790, Franklin
County, NC& Mary EVANS
- 7. George PACE II b. abt 1692, Prince George County, Va. d. 1740& Obedience
STRICKLAND (WORSHAM)?
- 8. JOHN PACE I b. 1668, Charles City County, Va. d. 1727, Bertie County,
NC & Elizabeth LOWE
- 9. RICHARD PACE II b. abt 1638, Charles City County, Va. d. aft 19 Nov 1677
COMMENT
Perfect 25 match of this donor and the one below
is strong evidence of close relationship.HOWEVER
- Note that WILLIAM No. 5 in the lineage above
is the same as WILLIAM No. 8 in 6429 below.These two individuals are from the same line
but disagree about the lineage from WILLIAM on back.
- Donor 6429 accepts Bruce Howard's theory;
- Donor 6366 (R-W(Jo1) does not.
R-W(Jo1) believes he has sufficient documentation
as listed on Val Tice's home page
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather
- 4. SIDNEY DAVID PACE
born January 01 1858 in Payson, Utah Co Utah
died April 22 1930 in Rock Creek, Montose Co Colorado (Documented)
- 5. WARREN SIDNEY PACE
- born December 28 1837 in Shelbyville, Shelby Co Illinois
- died December 21, 1903 in Payson, Utah Co Utah. (Documented)
- JAMES PACE
- born June 16 1811 in Double Springs, Rutherford Co Tennessee
- died April 06, 1888 in Thatcher, Graham Co Arizona. (Documented)
- JAMES PACE
- born bet. 1773 - 1778 in Edgecombe Co.(Halifax), North Carolina
- died December 23, 1814 in Battle of New Orleans, War of 1812, (Documented)
- WILLIAM PACE
(some disputes)+ RUTH LAMBERT
- born abt. 1745 in Prince George Co Virginia
- died 1834 in Rutherford Co Tennessee
(Disputed from this point on)
- RICHARD PACE
+ ELIZABETH Bet. 1743 - 1744.
- born abt 1713 in Prince George Co Virginia
- died 1769 in Edgecombe Co North Carolina
(This generation is my biggest problem area
and I have chosen Bruce Howard's arguments with some reservations
and further research needed)
- RICHARD PACE born Abt 1690 Charles City Co Virginia Colony
+ SARAH WOODLIEF abt 1712
- JAMES PACE born 1666 in Charles City Co Virginia
died aft October 11 1735 in Bertie Precinct, North Carolina
+ ELIZABETH LOWE m 1025
- RICHARD PACE II born 1636 in Charles City Co died 1677 in Charles City Co
+ MARY
Kit 1289190. Donor PATTERSON
- 1 HOBERT ORLAND PATTERSON born 3/5/14 – 11/24/02
+ LORETTA DICKSON, born 2/21/17
- 2 WILMOT MALCOM PATTERSON born 11/15/1889 – 8/21/1969
married ELVA GERTRUDE BUCHANAN born 3/16/1895 – 7/29/1968- 3. JEFFERSON JEREMIAH PACE, born 1861 – 1935
married JENNIE MAY BANDY
Please note - JEFFERSON JEREMIAH PACE and MATTIE SMITH were WILMOT MALCOM’s parents. Jefferson Jeremiah Pace secured a marriage license but for reasons unknown did not move forward with the marriage. MATTIE SMITH married WILLIAM PATTERSON who adopted WILMOT MALCOM (PACE) PATTERSON.
- 4. JOHN PACE, born 1832 – 1865
married MINERVA JANE BATTON
- 5. ISAAC PACE, born 1798-1857
wife information uncertain
- 6. WILLIAM PACE, born 1750 – 1830
married RUTH LAMBERTWebmaster's note - Information prior to William-Ruth is in dispute.
- 7. WILLIAM PACE, born 1716–1790, married Mary Evans
- 8. GEORGE PACE, born 1692–1740, married Obedience (?Worsham)
- 9. JOHN PACE, born 1668–1727, married Elizabeth Lowe
- 10. RICHARD PACE, born 1638–1677, married Mary (?Baker)
- 11. GEORGE PACE, born 1609–1655, married Sarah Maycock
- 12. RICHARDd PACE, born 1582–1627, married Isabella Smyth and came to Jamestown, VA about 1611.
This information was obtained from our family tree which was prepared by the donor's father, Hobert Orland Patterson, and from Our Pace Ancestry compiled by Bob Pace.
Kit #14155 R-W (Ja)
+ RUTH LAMBERT
- 0. Donor
- 1. Father
- 2. Grandfather JAMES BYRUM PACE
+ ADELINE SAVAGE
- b 1872 New Harmony, Washington Co UT
- d 1933 Gallup, McKinley Co NM
- 3. WILSON DANIEL PACE
+ ELIZABETH LEE
- b 1831 Murfreesboro, R, TN
- d 1899 Thatcher, Graham Co AZ
- 4. WILLIAM FRANKLIN PACE
+ MARGARET E. NICHOLS
- b 1806 Double Springs, Rutherford TN
- d 1876 New Harmony, Washington Co UT
- 5. JAMES PACE Sr.
+ MARY ANN LOVING
- b 1778 New Orleans, SB, Louisiana
- d 1814 (Battle of New Orleans) NO, WO1, Louisiana
- 6. WILLIAM PACE
- born 1750/1751 Bute, Franklin Co NC
- died 1830/1837 Rutherford Co TN
(Disputed from this point on)
7. RICHARD PACE born Abt. 1713 in Prince George Co Virginia died 1769 in Edgecombe Co North Carolina
+ Elizabeth Bet 1743 - 1744.(This generation is my biggest problem area
and I have chosen Bruce Howard's arguments with some reservations
and further research needed)
8. RICHARD PACE
born Abt. 1690 in Charles City Co Virginia Colony.
+ SARAH WOODLIEF Abt 1712
9. JAMES PACE + 1025. ELIZABETH LOWE
- born 1666 in Charles City Co., Virginia
- died Aft October 11, 1735 in Bertie Precinct, North Carolina
10. RICHARD PACE II + MARY ?BAKER?
- born 1636 in Charles City Co
- died 1677 in Charles City Co
0. Donor
1. Father
2. Grandfather
3. William Pace b. 3 Jul 1806 Double Springs, Rutherford,TN
4. James Pace, Sr. b.23 Jan 1778 Northampton Co. NC d. 23 Dec 1814 New Orleans,LA
5. William Pace B. abt 1745 Bute, Franklin, Co, NC D. 1830/1837 Tenn m. Ruth Lambert
O. Donor
1. Archibald Clarence Pace born 1901
Md Josie Alean Sperry
2. William James Pace 1854+
3. William Byron Pace 1832 Ruther ford TN
4. James Edward Pace 1811
5. James Pace 1778 killed at Battle of New Orleans
Md Mary Ann Loving
6. William Pace 1750/1755
Ruth Lambert ???(Disputed from this point on)
7.William Pace 1716 ???
Mary Evans
8. George Pace 1690
9. James Pace 1670
Sarah Eppes
0. Donor
William Pace; 1750-51--1843
1. Father
2. Grandfather
3. Brig. General William Byram Pace; 1832-1907
4. James Pace; 1811-1888
5. James Pace; 1778-1814
6.
(Disputed from this point on)
7. Richard Pace; 1713-1769
8. Richard Pace; 1690-1737
9. James Pace; 1666-1735
10. Richard Pace; 1636-1677
0. Donor
1. Alzo Bryan Pace Jr., born 1928, died 1992, married Marcia Joyce Cantrell 22-Sep-1957.
2. Alzo Bryan Pace Sr. born 15-Mar-1896 died 15-Nov-1967 married Eunice Gertrude Etheridge on 16-Jun-1918
3. William Wesley Pace born 12-Apr-1856 died 20-Sep-1935 married Georgia Miller on 7-Dec-1879
4. John Pace born ~1832 died 5-Jan-1865 married Minerva Jane Batton ~1855
5. Isaac Pace born 1798 died ~1850 married unknown ca 1819
6.
William Pace born ~1750 died ~1834 married Ruth Lambert ~1771
1. DONOR
2. Father
3. Grandfather
4. Jesse K. Pace (1866 Collin Co, TX - 1930 Dallas Co, TX) and his wife Margaret M. Gordon
5. David Wright Pace (1836 Morgan Co, AL - 1912 Cooke Co, TX) and his wife Mahala Rebecca Hampton
6. Jesse Kirby Harris Pace (1814 Franklin Co, TN - 1874 Collin Co,TX) and his wife Elizabeth Bagley Petty
7. John Pace Jr. (1775 VA - 1830 Blount, now Cullman Co, AL) and his wife Zepporah Kirby
8. John Pace Sr (1750 VA - 1825 Greenville Co,SC) and wife Ann Russell
Donor
Father (Robert C. Pace, Sr., b. 16 Jan 1891, Jasper Co., Tx, d. 11 Sept 1967, Jasper Co., Tx, m. Jesse Viva
Linscome
Grandfather (Hardy Allen Pace, b. 15 Oct 1856, Jasper Co., Tx, d. 27 May 1909, Jefferson Co., Tx, m. Sophronia
Hall
Eli Pace, b. 10 Oct 1835, Dist. of Bevil (Jasper Co.,) Texas, d. 19 Apr 1923, Jasper Co., Tx, m. Nancy Henderson.
Hardy Pace, b. 7 Oct 1807, Georgia, d. 2 May 1880, Jasper Co., Texas, m. Mahalla Isaacks
0 Donor
1 Jack (Alymer Flannagan) Pace b. June 12 1892 Farmerville, Union Parish, LA d. June 23, 1945, Farmerville Union Parish LA
2 Alexander Lane Pace b. June 21 1850 AL or GA d. March 19, 1931, Farmerville, Union Parish, LA
3 Thomas Pace b. Nov. 15, 1802 NC d. unknown aft 1880Comment: DNA places this donor in group 3a.
20864 R-Ja
0. Donor
- Father
- Grandfather
- William Pace (1837-1862
- Charles Pace ca 1810-1847
- Robert Pace ca 1785-1850
- George Pace
(Disputed from this point on)- Richard+Elizabeth 1713
- Richard+Sarah
- James+Elizabeth 1669
0. Donor
1. Father
2. WILLIAM JAMES PACE (CSA Veteran) born 10 Aug 1846 in Marion Co, SC died 14 Nov 1903 in Marion Co (Dillon), SC + ANN DELLA FLOYD
3. DANIEL PACE born 1821 in Marion Co, SC died bet 1870-80 in Marion Co, SC + REBECCA BROWN
4. ARCHIBALD PACE (War of 1812) born 1780-90 in NC died bet 1828-30 in possibly Marion Co, SC (rumored he died in Blackhawk Indian War) + MARY ROE
5. GEORGE PACE born 1740-50 in Franklin Co, NC died bet 1830-40 in Marion Co, SC + ANN PILL
6. WILLIAM PACE (French & Indian War) born abt 1716-24, Prince George Co, VA died 25 Feb 1790 in Franklin Co, NC + MARY EVANS / JEMIMIA (2nd wife)
7. GEORGE PACE born abt 1692, (Charles City Co)/Prince George County, VAdied 1740-43 in NC (possibly Edgecombe Co) + OBEDIENCE STRICKLAND (WORSHAM)?
8. JAMES PACE born 1666 in (Charles City Co)/Prince George Co, VA died aft 11 October 1735 in Bertie Precinct, NC + ELIZABETH LOWE
Contact: David Thompson, familypuzzleATverizon.net
Donor b. in Brunswick, TN 6 Jun 1918
Father Cosby Alonzo Pace: born in Cochran, GA August 1, 1878 and died in 1944 (they were living in Brunswick, Tenn, so I assume he died there) Married to: Dona Elnora Stewart: born in Brunswick, Tenn. December 15, 1871-75 (approx. year) and died at about 88 years of age.
Contact Lynn Beard, lynnbeard AT bellsouth.net
0) Donor b 1924 Louisiana - still alive
1) Oscar Leon Pace - b 1884 Louisiana - d Louisiana
2) William B Pace - b 1852 Mississippi - d ? prob La.
3) Thomas Pace - b 1822 Mississippi - d ? last census he was listed
as living in Louisiana
The donor, age 83, is one of the last Paces in our line.Comment: 24/25 match places this donor in group 3a. Deviation in marker 4 is unique to this donor.
Contact person: patricia hawsey, pphawsey AT yahoo.com
0) Donor b. 1942, living;
1) William P. Pace, b. 19 Jan 1870, Garden Valley, mith Co, Tx, d. 12 Jan 1951, Wood Co, Tx
2) Clarence, b. 1899, d. 1971, Tx;
3) Bartley (ett?) M. Pace, b. Apr 1837,Talledega Co, Al, d. 1930, Wood Co, Tx. His father apparently died @1838 in AL as Bartley, mother, and two sisters appear onTalledega, AL, 1850 census with stepfather, John Wallis. They moved to TX 1856....
My step grandmother wrote one D.K. Pace as Bartley's father on his death certificate; however, he died in TX in 1874, and other researchers say there was a Bartley, Sr., through the two Silas Pace lines, so forth
Webmaster's note: I have been informed that evidence has been found that Bartley was a grandson of Richard and Elizabeth (Cain)'s son Silas.
Betty Pitchford Bpitchford4 AT aol.com
o. Donor
1. Father
2. William Lumpkin Pace b. 1865 Calhoun Co, GA d. 1937 Terrell Co, GA
3. Noel (Noah) William Pace b. 1826 Elbert Co, GA d. 1902 Terrell Co, GA
4. John Pace b. 1800 Elbert Co, GA d. 1859 Calhoun Co, GA
5. Barnabus Pace b. 1747 d. 1831 Elbert Co, GA
6. Richard Pace IV b. 1700 NC d. + Elizabeth Cain
7. Richard Pace III b. 1675 Virginia d. 1738 NC
0. Donor:
1. Father
2. Grandfather: William Andrew Pace b. 3 June 1887, m. Martha Malone, d. 9 Aug. 1963
3. Joseph Farrar Pace b. 1859, m. Willie Annie Farrar d. after 1920
4. William A. Pace b. 1831, m. Mariah A. Farrar, d. between 1900-1910
5. James T. Pace b. 15 Nov.1793, m. Ann Leigh Phillips, d. 21 March 1848
6. Bignal Pace b. c. 1753 m. 1)Elizabeth Cheives/Cheaves d.1817 (Listed in Pace bulletin no. 131, March 2000 as William Bignal Pace)
Comment: This Pace line seems to have stayed in the Virginia area, unlike many of the others in group 3 who moved south. The locale of the donor is the Richmond, Virginia, area.
0. Donor
1. Father
2. Grandfather Mark Edward Pace b Aug 8, 1900 d February 13, 1926. birth/death certificates
3. John Clinton Pace b June 4, 1872 d February 4, 1944 Hill, History of OK
4. James Eldon Pace b September 26, 1849 d June 8, 1929 Hill, History of OK
5. Albert Gallatin Pace b June 24, 1825 d April 14, 1899 Smith, Fannin County Folks
6. Twitty T. Pace b December 29, 1789 d February 11, 1849 Smith, Fannin County Folks
7. John Pace b 1748 Howard, Our Colonial Ancestors
8. Francis Pace b 1718 Howard, Our Colonial Ancestors
9. Richard Pace b 1690 Howard, Our Colonial Ancestors
10 James Pace b 1666 Howard, Our Colonial AncestorsComment: This Twitty Pace descendent matches 34/37 with the modal for group 3a and has the two distinctive markers consistent with this group. See the other Twitty Pace descendent who does not match any Paces, kit 55000.
Group 3b
This group is distinguished from 3a by a two step difference in marker 26 and a single step difference in marker 21. Normally, this would indicate that they are not related, but FTDNA performed a careful analysis of other markers and has determined that they ARE related. The mutations must have occurred AFTER the common ancestor.
Donor 10683 submits a totally different ancestry chart citing a William Pace as son of Richard II Pace records do not indicate such a son.
It would be well to examine the documentation carefully.
Most recent common ancestor (as per submitted lineage) shown in red.
Kit 7791
0.Donor
1 Father
2. John Pace b. 8 Dec 1889 in Harlan Co. KY, d.3 Aug 1935 Harlan Co.
KY....documented
3. Simeon Pace b15 Sep, 1868 in Harlan Co KY, d 28 Mar 1939 in Harlan Co.,Ky....
documented
4. Francis Pace b1837 in Harlan Co KY, d.1891 Harlan Co, KY documented
5. Simeon Pace b1812 in Knox Co KY, d. aft 1860 in Harlan Co KY... documented,
DNA results
6.
Jesse Pace b. abt 1773
in
Surry Co NC, d. aft 1829 in Harlan Co, KY...strong circumstantial evidence, DNA
results
7. Note: My research indicates Jesse was a son or a grandson of either John or Richard Pace who are believed to be brothers who settled at Beaver Dam Swamp, Edgecombe, NC in 1759. They migrated there from Martin's Brandon Parish, Prince George Co., VA. This is the same John Pace who is believed to have later moved to Surry, NC after the death of his brother Richard....Strong circumstantial evidence, DNA results8. Richard Pace b abt 1690 Charles City Co VA, d aft 1728 in Prince George Co VA...PSA Bulletins
9. George Pace b. abt 1661 Charles City Co, VA d. aft 1704 Prince George Co, VA...PSA Bulletins
10. Richard Pace b 1637 Charles City Co, VA, d 1677 Charles City Co, VA....documented
11. George Pace b probably ca 1609, d. aft 1651 in Charles City Co, VA...documented
12. Richard Pace b probably abt 1585 in England d. abt 1625 in James City Co, VA...documented
Kit #13827
(submitted by Darlene Pace darlene AT adweb.net)
Joseph Benjamin Pace b. 1876 Al? m. #1 Lonie Pace m. #2
Oma Stanley Riggs William Richard Pace b. 1844 m. Rowena Gist William Pace b. 1824 NC married Mary DavenportRichmond
Pace b. 1800 (not 1824) in SC or NC m. Susan Gideon Burrel P. Pace Sr. b. 1758 Bertie Co. NC John Pace m. Sarah (Burgh?) Joseph and Lonie were distant cousins as both are direct
descendents of Richard Pace and Sarah Woodliefe, parents of the John Pace
above. Donor
esse Pace b - abt 1770-1775
d -
Unknown poss in war of 1812 there is a Jesse Pace on Madison Co Ky Cen 1820 but unsure Documented
Father: Arthur Pace b. 07 April 1907 Harlan, Ky s/o my
Grandfather: Leander Pace b. 21 September 1982 Harlan Cty, Ky s/o my
Great Grandfather: William Pace b. 1832-1836 Harlan Cty, Ky. s/o my
GGGrandfather Richmond Pace b. 1803 Think Ky. s/o my
GGGGrandfather: Possibly
Donor
Father
John Gilbert Pace b. 1880 Harlan Co, KY
Zachariah Taylor Pace. b. 1850 Harlan Co. KY d Nov 1928
Neosho, Newton Co. MO + Lydia Adams
John Pace b. 1810 Harlan Co, Ky died bef 1880 in KY
Jesse Pace,
b. abt. 1773, Surry Co, NC
This donor writes:
"My Grandfather was born Ernest Houston Pace in Huntsville, Texas @ 1906. At some point for reasons unknown to me his name changed to Roy Shannon."
This person has no evidence beyond this but DNA places him in Group 3, most likely Group 3b based on the DNA result at marker 385b (marker 6 on the chart.)
Notes
There is a difference of opinion among Jesse Pace submitters about Jesse's lineage back to John and Sarah Pace. This page uses the opinion of the submitters for this category initially, until and unless hard evidence to the contrary can be found. Therefore, this designation has been changed to make Jesse the first proven ancestor.
Part of the controversy hinges on the wording of a deed of 1778 in which Thomas Pace sold some land. If a copy of that deed can be found and printed on this page, it might help to resolve the controversy.
William Pace-Sicely Walker line: The following entries show clear descent from William-Sicely. The DNA record shows them matching with Group 3b.
0. Donor
1. Father
2. Grandfather
3. Thomas James "Jimmie" Pace b. 30 October 1854 in Cheatham Co.,
--- Thomasville, Tennessee, d. 21 February 1931 in
Cheatham Co.,
--- Thomasville, Tennessee. Martha Ann ---Teasley
1857 - 1939
4. William Hackney Pace b. 28 July 1821d. 25 Apr 1900
5. William Richard Pace, Jr. b. 7/16/1778 Halifax Co., NC, d. Oct 18 1835
--- in Robertson Co. TN
6. William Richard Pace, Sr. b. abt. 1747 Halifax Co. NC m.
Sicely Walker
---
((donor says he is completely sure of lineage to this point))
7. Hardy Pace b. 1735 in Bertie Co., NC, died 1792
8. William Pace b. abt 1712 in Jamestown, James City, VA d. Dec. 1775
--- in Northampton, NC (Note: There
is no known record for such a
son of Richard II. The Winifred Aycock Lane letter
mentions her
grandfather (Richard Jr.) plus Thomas, John, George, and James)
9. Richard Pace II b. 1638 m. Mary Baker
Comment: Although this donor submitted the above lineage, DNA evidence shows him to be in Group 3b with an especially close relationship to 7791. A careful check of sources for this lineage is indicated.
1. Gordon William Pace
b. 1943 OR (documented)
2. John Milton Pace, Jr. b. 1909, OK (documented)
3. John Milton Pace, Sr. b. 1870 AR (documented)
4. John Harvey Pace b. 4/18/1831 Haywood Co, TN m. Florence Hayden (documented)
5. Christopher Stump Pace b. 12/29/1809 Davidson Co, TN, m. Margareta M. Woods
(documented)
6. Alsey Pace b. 1781 Halifax Co, NC m. Sally A. Stump (documented)
7. William Pace,
Sr. b. abt. 1747
Edgecombe Co, NC, m.
Sicely Walker
(documented)
8. George Pace b. 1711 Prince George Co, VA, m. Patience Howell
There is a slight possibility that the George who was the father of William
Pace, Sr. was a different George than the one listed here, possibly son of
Richard Pace and Sarah Woodliefe.
9. John Pace b. 1668 Charles City Co, VA, m. Elizabeth in 1689 (documented)
10. Richard Pace II b. 1638 Charles City Co, VA, m. Mary Baker (documented)
Comment: Strange contradiction between records and DNA--DNA shows exact match
with the modal for group 3b.
Donor
Father
Grandfather
Great-Grandfather - Robert James Pace b. June 8, 1848, Columbus, Colorado Co. TX - d September 4, 1903, Bastrop Co. TX-Married Martha Ellen Keepers
G-Great-Grandfather - Dempsey Council Pace b, abt 1820, TN - d. Oct. 3, 1851, Columbus, Colorado Co. TX -Married Elizabeth Dabney
G-G-Great-Grandfather - Gideon Pace b. abt 1784, TN - d. abt Sept. 2, 1829, Schooner Eclipse returning to TX. Gideon arrived in TX in 1828, documented in Texas State Archives. Gideon is listed with known brothers in William Pace Sr. will.- Married Martha Hunt
G- G-G-Great-Grandfather -
William Pace Sr. b. abt 1747, Edgecombe Co.,NC d. 1845, in Montgomery Co., TN-Married Sicely WalkerFor further comment on possible ancestors of William click here.
COMMENT:
24/25 match plus the 2-step difference in marker 6 places this donor in group 3b. Note also that he is a 25/25 match with 16218 above and a one-marker mismatch with the other Burrel descendents.
. Donor
* 1. Father
* 2. Grandfather
* 3. JOHN ASHLY PACE b Oct 1861 Fannin Co. TX d Abt. 1921/22
Comment: extended marker tests indicate that this donor could NOT be a descendent of John Pace/Ann Russell as he does not match other descendents of this union. This donor does not match with any others in the Pace study. This could mean that he is from a yet undiscovered Pace line, that there was an unreported adoption or illegitimacy, or that the lineage is inaccurate. Further study is needed.
Kit #21419
NOTE
This is an interesting submission for two reasons.
- The first is a name change.
For personal reasons, James Madison Pace
decided to use Madison as his last name.
So the donor is a male Pace descendent
although not named Pace.
- Secondly, he fits clearly into group 3b.
Also, the mutation in marker 23 would seem to indicate
a closer relationship to the other three in the chart
with this mutation.HOWEVER note that marker 21 is consistent with group 3a, not 3b Two things could cause this:
- unique double mutation in this group might have occurred in two steps, rather than one
-- one mutation in one generation, the next in a later one.
- A later mutation could have occurred reverting BACK to
the original score in marker 23.
It will be interesting
to follow future developments.
Posted July 29, 2004.
Kit #26541
Descendent of Edmund Pace & Sarah Walker
email
lrp AT steenrd.com
#2 is buried in Alcorn Co., MS. Numbers 3,4, and 5 are buried in Tishomingo Co., MS
From the donor: "According to other information that I have not tried to verify, Edmund and Sarah would have been the grandfather of Albert, # 5 on my list. Albert's father was supposedly David W. Pace, whom I believe to have been the first in my line to settle in MS."
Kit #19490
Disputed from this point on:
Kit #7840
0 Donor 1 Walter Eugene PACE (b: 1876 Waverly, Humphreys Co, TN)(d:
1947 New Boston, Bowie Co, TX) 2 Joachim "Joac" L.
(b: 1823-1825 prob
Williamson Co. TN)(d: c1883 Waverly? Humphreys Co, TN) +
Nancy Emma McKAINEY (b: ca 1848 TN) (d: ca 1890 Clay Co? AR) 3
Thomas PACE, Sr. (b:
1790-1794 SC? NC?) (d Oct1867- May 1868 Williamson Co, TN) +Catherine (DONAHOO?)
b: 1790-1794 VA? NC?) (d: ca 1865 Williamson Co, TN)
Comments:
23435 LANDRUM:
+ CLARA SBBell WILSON
+ JULIA ANN REID
+ ZILPHA HALL
(Documented and Bruce
Howard)
+ INDIAN girl (mother of Alsey Pace--illegitimate--nothing known of her)
+ SARAH BURGE
+ SARAH WOODLIEF b 1694 m Abt 1710 d Aft 1759
+ ELIZABETH LOWE b Abt 1670 m Abt 1685
+ MARY m Abt 1661 d Aft 1718
Prince George Co VA
(Group 3a but DNA evidence shows no relationship to this group)
died May 1939 in Carrollton, Carroll Co Ms. (documented)
died October 14, 1903 in Carroll Co Ms. (documented)
died 1838 in Vicksburg, Warren Co Ms. (documented)
died Abt. 1821 in Coffeeville, Clarke Co Ala (Per B. Howard)
died Abt 1780 in Surry Co N Carolina.
+ SARAH BURGH
Kit #23435
This person, of an entirely different surname and no known Pace
ancestry, matches 12/12 with 7840
Research is indicated on his part to determine whether a Pace ancestor is possible.
They are encouraged to submit their lineages to see if they match any of the other Pace lines. They will be identified by kit number and by "unsure" or "Wales" (see explanation). Their lineages will be traced as far back as they have them; perhaps Pace genealogists can help them to extend those lines.
The DNA of this group of Paces does not match any of the others. Family tradition and strong evidence indicates that they are the descendents of a Frederick Pace, believed to be of Wales who came to this country with sons William, John, and Dempsey, in 1768. These Paces moved to Clarke County, Alabama, and then spread out from there. It should be noted that no record of this Frederick has been found, and that "Wales" could include parts of western England on the Welsh border, as Wales was never an independent country and had no definite border. There were Welsh speakers on both sides of the presently defined border of Wales, and the "border" of Wales was "fuzzy" and even wobbled back and forth at different times.
To see the evidence for the ancestry of these Paces, click here.
The donor listed below is
the son, but since these three are in the same family, it is the same lineage.
0. Donor:
1. Father: b. 29 Jan 1921 Dallas, TX/ d. 31 Dec 1995
Alameda, CA
2. Grandfather: Aylmer Ramsey Pace b. 27 Aug 1880 Camden, Ouachita
----County,
AR d. 16 Dec 1940 Long Beach, Los Angeles County, CA
3. Williamson Winfield Scott Pace b. 1 Jul 1848 Camden, Ouachita County
AR, d. 17 Aug 18993 Camden,
Ouachita County AR
4. William Pace b. 8 Feb 1807 KY d. 28 Jul 1894 Ouachita County, AR
5. John Pace b. abt 1761 in Wales, or Edgecombe
County, NC d. 1821
----Clarke
County, AL
6. Frederick Pace b. unkn, d. unkn Migrated from Wales to USA about 1768
0. Donor
1. Father
2. Grandfather
William Earle Pace
born August 1875
3. John J. Pace
born 1840 in Clarke Co, AL
4. Dempsey P. Pace
born 1810 in Wilkinson Co, GA
5. William Pace
born abt 1757
died June 1826 in Clarke Co, AL
6. Frederick acc to family lore
0. Donor
1. Lonnie Clyde Pace b 11 Aug 1902 Pine Hill, Rusk CO, TX, d 9 Sep 1978 Beaumont, Jefferson CO, TX
2. Robert Stephen Pace, b. 8 Aug 1878 Clayton, Panola CO, TX d 9 sep 1913 Henderosn, Rusk C, TX m Pauline “Lena” Jones
3. John William Arthur O’Conner Pace b. 22 Mar 1845 Coffeeville, Clark CO, AL, d 10 Jan 1932 in Marshall, Harrison CO, TX m Martha Ann Terry
4 John William “Captain” Pace b. 1806 in SC, d 1894 Coffeeville, Clark CO, AL, m. Martha Ann Bell
5. Dempsey Pace, b. 26 Feb 1775 SC, d 29 Jan 1864, Clark County, AL, m. Elizabeth Rainwater of SC
6. Believed to be Frederick Pace supposedly of Wales
Comment: Consistency
in the matches of this line shows that it is a distinct Pace line and refutes
the belief that they are descendents of John "the Tory" of the North
Carolina/Richard line. 36/37 match between 11397 and 8025 would indicate that we
have 36 markers of Frederick's DNA.
Non-matching Paces -- These Paces do not match any of the lineages above
1.
Donor
2. Father
3. Grandfather|
4. Newton Lee
Pace (documented)Born 06/11/1881 in
----Alamance
County, NC. Died 01/15/1933 buried at Spray
----Cemetery
in Eden, NC. + Julia Ann Baker
5. Doctor Pace
(documented) Born – 02/18/1846 in Orange
----County,
NC.Died in 1929 and buried at Spray Cemetery in Eden, NC.
----
+Elizabeth Barker
6. Joseph
Barker Pace (Jr.) (documented) Born – 1804 in Orange
----County,
NC. Died 1885 in Alamance County, NC. Buried in
----Mebane,
NC. +Elizabeth Truitt
7. Joseph B.
Pace (Sr.) (marriage documented only) Born –
----Died
– before 1820 Orange County, NC. +Zilpha Woodward -
----Married
9/23/1788 in Chowan County, NC.
This donor does not appear to be related to any of the other Paces in the study.
Kit #13552 Unsure (Son)
Kit #31372 Unsure (Father)
See distant cousin kit no. 60597 below
This branch of the Pace family does not appear to be related to any of the other Paces in the study. There is no DNA match.
The lineage begins with the son, who is donor 13552
0. Donor
3. SAMUEL DUNBAR PACE
+ NANCY ELIZABETH AULTMAN
b. 8/18/1836 Marion County, MS
d. 2/11/1921 Marion County, MS + AMEDILLA LOTT (Spelled phonetically on tombstone as Armadilla)
This is as far back as anyone in our branch of the family has been able to trace our lineage. We've only been able to identify 2 sons of John and Abigail and could likely track down all their descendants. However, we've been unable to determine our relationship with any other Pace branches anywhere.
Kit 60597--distant cousin, descends from John Pace b. 1784
and Abigail. 25/25 DNA match supports accuracy of research.
o. Donor
Note that this Pace has an entirely different DNA profile from any of the others. The genetic distance is 15 from the nearest match (the total number of steps; 2-step differences count as 2, etc.) This strongly rules out any possibility of a relationship.
Kit #12269ill Unsure
1. Father
2. Grandfather
(family knowledge, Carroll Watts research notes)
(Carroll Watts research notes, family knowledge)
+ CANDIS MORRIS
(Carroll Watts research notes, Marion County MS marriage records, and censuses)
(Carroll Watts research notes, 1850 Census)
where he resided m Abagail (?) b. 1784 in NC (Common ancestor)
1. Father
2. Grandfather
3. Ed Pace, b. Decatur, MS ca 1893
4. John Pace b. Conehatta MS ca 1820
Comment:
he got an 1816 Maury Co TN appears on Williamson Co TN census from 1830-1860;
died between Oct 1867 - May1868 Williamson CO TN
By family tradition and census, #3 Joseph B. Pace is half brother to #1
Walther Eugene Pace in kit 13170 but DNA results suggest that they did NOT
share the same father.
1) Donor Pace, (Birth Certificate)
2) Worth Baghley Pace, b: 4 Feb 1900, Nash Co., N.C., d: 8 April 1973, Waco,
Texas (Census: 1920, 1910 & 1900)
3) John Davis Pace, b: 16 Jan 1844, Nash Co., N.C., d: 17 Nov 1934, Nash Co.,
N.C. (Census: 1880, 1870, 1860, 1850)
4) William Pace, b: 1807, Franklin Co., N.C., d: 1892, Edgecombe Co., N.C.
3. G- Grandfather JOSEPH H. PACE b. 10-14-1871 Benton County, Arkansas
d. 5-5-1944 Chester, Arkansas
m. DELLA J. BURGETT 12-2-1897 b. 11-24-1878 d 4-6-1927
4. WILLIAM R. PACE b 5-12-1824 Giles County,Tennessee d. 5-15-1892
Benton County, Arkansas m. SARAH ANN HENDRIX Abt. 1847 b.5-15-1827
d 7-27-1889
5. William Pace( no information as of this date
0. Donor.
1. Father
2. Grandfather Joseph H. Pace
Born Oct 14, 1871 Benton Co, Arkansas Died May 5, 1944 Fort Smith
Arkansas Have funeral record, death certificate, census records, and photos.
3. Great Grandfather William R. Pace Born May 12, 1821 Tenn
Died May 15, 1892 Benton co, Arkansas
census records, and photos of tombstones.
Gordon W. Pace of Oregon submitted the following information on this line:
From Gordon W Pace, 5-24-04
One of the major Pace lineages for which the ancestry is undiscovered, is
that of William R. Pace and Sarah Hendrix of Giles Co, TN and Benton Co, AR.
This is the ancestry of DNA test subject #15541 as well as the ancestry of James
Dean Pace of Benton Co.
This is briefly what I know about this lineage:
William Pace was b. abt. 1770 in SC and died abt. 1825-30, probably in Maury
Co, TN. He married Sarah Frazier abt. 1803 in Mississippi Territory, daughter
of William Frazier and a Native American. Per Gale Judkins, family lore says
that this family was closely associated with the Choctaw tribe in Mississippi
Territory and Sarah may have been a full-blood Choctaw. The area of
residence prior to the removal of the Choctaw was near what is now Yalobusha Co,
MS.
The family apparently arrived in TN before 1811.
Their children were: Alpha Pace b. 1804, d. 1875 Giles Co, TN, m. John Escue
Rachel Pace b. 1809,
Thomas Pace b. 1811, d 1848 in Lawrence Co, TN,
John Jackson b. 1815, d. aft 1870 Giles Co, TN, m. Mourning Logan 1850
Lawrence Co, TN,
Dempsey b. 1818, d. aft 1880 AR, m. Sarah Cooper in Hardin Co, TN. William R.
Pace b. 1836? Giles Co, TN, d. aft 1890 Benton Co, AR.
Thomas Pace m. Mary Hendrix 7/17/1833 in Lawrence Co, TN, daughter of William
Hendrix and Sarah. Their children were:
James Dean Pace b. 1835 Giles Co, TN, d. aft 1880 AR Christopher C. b. 1836 TN
Sarah E. b. 1840 Sophrona H. b. 1842 Robert Richmond b. 1844 Thomas J. b. 1845
William R. Pace - birth year from census records range from 1828 to 1836. On
the 1880 Benton Co, AR census (Brightwater Twp) he shows both parents b. TN.
William m. Sarah A. Hendrix (sister of above Mary) on 9/12/1849 in Lawrence
Co, TN. Their children were:
William J. , John S., Martha Almyra, Thomas E., General E., Mary A., Sarah
Rachel, Susan Arphetty, Fanny H., George M., and Joseph H. b. 10/14/1871 Benton
Co, AR.
The following children were in the household of William R. on the 1880
census: John S., Mary E., Sarah R., Fanny H., George M. and Joseph H. Also in
the
hh were William Hendricks 35 and James Hendricks 18, relationship not noted
but undoubtedly close relatives of Sarah and Mary Hendrix.
Does anyone have a clue as to the ancestry of William Pace b. abt. 1770 SC? As
the James Dean Pace biography indicates, his family believed him to be a
descendant of Richard Pace of Jamestown but the one DNA test from this line
seems to refute this.
What is greatly needed is another test subject from this line to see if the
results match the first.
Gordon W. Pace
0. Donor
1. Elton Barden Pace b. 15 DEc. 1921 in Nash Co. d. 19> April 1998 in Durham, NC
2. Leonard Pace b. Johnston Co. NC in 1879 in Jo. Co.,> NC d. 1927 in Nash Co., NC. wife Nettie Celeste DEANS Pace b. Nash Co.> NC d. 1941 in Durham, NC
3. MCDaniel Pace was born Jo. Co. NC in 1855 and married> Harriette WAll Pace in Jo. Co. NC in 1879.
4. Zilpha Pace is McDaniel Pace's mother without marriage. Mc Daniel's Father’s name Daniel Sellers. (Note: a check of Sellers DNA study shows no match for this participant to any Sellers on the site.)
5. John Pace b. 1799 to either Stephen Pace or Stephen Pace's daughter without marriage. John married Edney BATTEN Pace in Jo. CO. NC in 1821
6. Stephen Pace or daughter Stephen b. abt. 1757 Prince George Co. VA, d. after 1804 Johnston Co. NC (Bruce Howard) + Indian girl (mother of Alsey Pace--illegitimate--nothing known of her) Stephen married a Walker in Edgecomb County. Following her death he and a Major Walker came to Johnston County, NC. Stephen there married another Walker (sister-in-law of Major).
7. John Pace +Sarah ("John the Tory") b. before 1732 VA, d. October, 1780 in Shallow Ford, Surry Co., NC (Bruce Howard) +Sarah , b.abt. 1733 in VA, d. before 1808 in Surry Co. NC
Comment: Of course this line does not match Paces as it descends from at least one and perhaps two females. However, it is a Pace line and is of interest to Pace researchers.
No information available at this time (July 2007). Lineage has been requested.
Donor
HOWARD EUGENE PACE (b. 11/26 /1907, CAPE GIRARDEAU, MO., m. June Elizabeth Williams, Dormont, Pittsburgh, Pa., d. 3/21/ 1981, Dormont, Pittsburgh, pa.)
JOEL PLEASANT PACE (m. Florence Luella Ancell, 5/4/1905)
JOSEPH H. PACE (b. 1829 Surry Co. N.C., m. Rachel Rebecca Deem, 8/29/ 1864, Owen Co. Indiana)
Donor's comment: I think Joseph is the son of ALFRED H. PACE who was born in Surry Co. N.C. and married Milly Bray there on 9/21/1817, and died in Owen County, Indiana in early 1850's. ) There is speculation, but no proof that's come to my attention yet, that Alfred was the son of Edmund of the Richard Pace (of Jamestown) line, due to location of Edmund in Surry County. The connection of Surry County N.C. and Owen Co. indiana seems like pretty good evidence that Alfred migrated from N.C. to Owen Co., Indiana with son, Joseph. Joseph was raised and married there.
Comment: This donor does not match any other Paces in the database. The speculation does not seem to be accurate.
In addition to the mismatch, the predicted haplogroup for this donor is R1a, not found so far in any other Pace. The Richard Pace descendents are R1b1. Here is a description of this haplogroup:
A subclade of R1, R1a is a Y-chromosome haplogroup found at high frequency (more than 40%) from the Czech Republic across to the Altai Mountains in Siberia and south throughout Central Asia.[1]
R1a arose 15,000 years ago in the vicinity of Ukraine, expanding from either the Ukrainian LGM refuge following the end of the last ice age, or from the Pontic-Caspian steppe as a result of the Kurgan migrations.[2][3][4]. But some studies question these earlier findings and claim that R1a lineages may have its origin in North India [5][6] [7]. The expansion of R1a has been associated with the spread of the Indo-European languagesNote that this donor submitted DNA to ancestry.com rather than Family Tree DNA. The number 999999 is not an FTDNA number but was assigned arbitrarily. This donor does not match with any other Paces and is our only submitter in haplogroup G.
0. Donor
1. John Quintin Pace (1940-1999)
2. Leonard Quinton Pace (1912-1998)
3. Leander Pace (1875-1958)
4. William Henry Pace (1845-1918)
5. David Pace (1816-1902) - he is our shared
ancestor from NJ Michael Pace (abt 1770/80 -
1841/61) Left NJ for Ontario William? Pace He may
have been the German immigrant (left NJ for
Ontario around 1800 if they're from Germany)
This donor was believed to be a possible Pees-Pace or at least related to that line, but the DNA results do not bear that out.
0. Donor
1. Father
2. John William (Harvil) Pace
3. Pleasant G. Pace
4. Willis Pace
This donor was believed to be descended from
William Pace/Ruth Lambert but DNA does not match.
UK Paces
Including all Paces |
An AMERICAN PACE of Washinton state
Kit number - 48329 |
Kit 8179 UK
NOTE: Rotherhithe is across the Thames immediately opposite Wapping. Antony says his great grandfather was a barge builder. He matches 22/25 with our group 3, the main group
believing themselves descended from RICHARD, but FTDNA says this is not a close enough match. The mismatch at DYS 390, a slow-changing allele, was especially significant in indicating a mismatch.
(Antony Pace has asked that his full lineage be posted including current generation.)
+ GWENDOLINE ROSE GILKS b 1 October 1904 Kensington LONDON
d 27 December 1979
+ RACHEL KIGHTLY
0. Donor
1. Father: HOMER GLEN PEES, b. 2 Nov 1931, Washington County, PA; died 1994, Washington County, PA. Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA. Married NANCY ELLEN DUVALL, daughter of RAYMOND DUVALL and RENA FORMECK. She was born June 17, 1939 in Washington County, PA.
2. Grandfather: GLEN ELMER PEES, b. 3 Oct 1890, Washington County, PA; d. 3 Jan 1962, Washington County, PA. Married ZOETTA CLEMENS. She was born September 03, 1897.
3. G-Grandfather: JAMES FRANKLIN PEES, b. 8 Apr 1854, Washington County, PA; d. 1933, Washington County, PA. Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA. Married ELIZABETH AMOS, daughter of HENRY AMOS and MARTHA HARRIS. She was born 1855, and died 1899.
4. G-G-Grandfather: NICHOLAS PEES, b. 1806, Washington County, PA; d. 1877, Washington County, PA. Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA. Married ELIZABETH WALLER. She was born 1812, and died 1885.
5. G-G-G-Grandfather: GEORGE PEES, b. 30 Jul 1770, Conococheague, MD; d. 1849, Washington County, PA. Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA. Married LYDIA VAUGHN, daughter of JOHN VAUGHN and MARY CHEESEMAN. She was born 1772, and died 1865.
6. G-G-G-G-Grandfather: NICHOLAS PEES, b. 1713 in Germany; d. 1818 in Washington County, PA. Burial: Pigeon Creek Presbyterian Cemetery, Washington County, PA. Married HANNAH UNKNOWN.
Comment: DNA match of 24/25 with 20553 indicates probable relationship despite lack of common records.
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Kit #12280
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This entry is from a person surnamed Smith who did not match with anyone in the Smith study but who did match with our German Pees-Pace entry. He is exploring the possibility of a name change somewhere in his ancestry and thinks he might be a Pees-Pace. Marker 23 has changed from 14 to 12 when compared to donor 20553 who is a German Pace/Pees donor. This is a fast moving marker. The two step difference in this allele makes the administrator a bit skeptical, but it is certainly possible. |
The following entry comes from Ancestry.com. The submitter has asked that his name be included. He traces to Pennsylvania and matches with the German Pees-Pace line. His ancestors spelled it "Pase".
0. Dale Leonard Pase (the donor)
1. Leonard Bryan Pase
2. Christian Carl Pase b. 17 Dec 1895 West Virginia, d. 15 May 1980
3. Andrew Jackson Pase b. 1856 Pennsylvanid d. 1943 West Virginia
4. Jacob Pase b. 1828 Pennsylvanis d. Tucker, West Virginia
The Pace name seems to have two distinct origins: England and Italy. It appears from the evidence that the name evolved separately in these two locations and the DNA evidence so far would indicate that English and Italian Paces are not related. In both cases, there seems to be some relation of the Pace name to the word "peace" and in fact, in Italian, Pace (pronounced "pah-chee") means peace. The Pace DNA project is interested also in Italian Paces and would like more submissions.
0 donor (living)
father (living)
Grandfather Gaetano Pace b. January 27, 1913 d. January 24, 1992..Born Pittston, PA Died Whittier, CA
Great grandfather Francesco (Frank) Pace b. Dec. 11, 1875 in Sicily d. Sept. 14, 1942, Buffalo, NY
5. ) A paper written in 1885 by Fannie Pace Goodman who was a granddaughter of Dempsey Pace. She stated “Dempsey Pace and John Pace, sons of Frederick Pace, left Virginia in 1790 and spent sometime in South Carolina, a year in Kentucky, one in Tennessee, coming through the Cherokee Indians County with other families…”
Bob Webb has analyzed this evidence and presents a very well reasoned perspective:
My goal is to put the different family traditions in perspective. I agree that the evidence does weigh in heavily that Frederick was Dempsey's father. I accept that without reservation. I'm still reluctant to say that Frederick was the immigrant ancestor of this line, but is rather the earliest known ancestor of the line. I'm still waffling on the idea that he was William and John's father. If not, he was certainly their brother. The math is shaky in Dr. Jesse Pace's account of the births of these men. We know he was off by about 13 years when he referred to Dempsey, the only one we have a decent birth year for (1775). Dr. Pace had Dempsey's birth year as 1762. He has John's birth date set at 1760 (Bruce Howard says 1761). I've often thought John was also younger than that.; closer to Dempsey in age, say 1773. John's wife Elizabeth was born about 1779-1780. When John died in 1821, he left a passel of young children, the youngest an infant. Was he 60 or in his late 40s? Dr. Pace contradicted himself when he said John died at the age of 40 of congestive chills (old medical terminology for malaria with diarrhea).
That memory must have been a very vivid and direct one for John's son William of Arkansas, who was 13 at the time. I lean towards the later birth date for John. You could almost shoe-horn him in as an adult son of Frederick listed in the South Carolina census of 1800. Certainly works for Dempsey. Does this leave a problem with your ancestor William? If William was much younger, he would have missed service in the Revolution, and I'm not about to challenge that. By Dr. Pace's reckoning, William was born in 1757. His war record says he served in 1779. How young could he have been? Bruce Howard estimated his birth year at 1759, which is acceptable. Dr. Pace says he was 17 when he enlisted , which would make his birth year at about 1761-62. Yet Dr. Pace says he lived to be four score years, which is 80. We know William died in Clarke County in 1826. William must have been 64-69 at the time of his death. Probably seemed like four-score to his young nephew and namesake.
A note about the birthplace of JOHN and DEMPSEY. John's son RICHMOND states on the 1880 Newton County, Miss. census that his parents were born in South Carolina. RICHMOND's younger brother JESSE MERCER PACE also states that his parents were born in South Carolina. In that same census year in Clarke County, Alabama, Dempsey's children state that he was born in South Carolina. The consistency is compelling. T. H. Ball referred to John "from South Carolina" and "Frederick of South Carolina."Additional info on possibilities for ancestry of William Pace m. Sicely Walker, submitted by Charles R. Pace
Parents of WILLIAM PACE Sr are not verified. Listed below are some KNOWN possibilities. GEORGE and PATIENCE are the most probable KNOWN Pace family, based on documentation about them. 1.George and Patience -George probably born before 1702 based on GEORGE's first appearance in the records of a deed in Bertie Co. NC. On November 12, 1723, as a witness to the deed of MICHAEL MacKINNE and JOHN FORT. GEORGE and PATIENCE had 2 sons, JOHN over 21 in 1773 and WILLIAM under 21 in 1773 based on the will written by GEORGE at about age 71, January 26, 1773. In the will it is stated, "To son WILLIAM PACE, 160 acres on the north side of the branch when he is 21". GEORGE died about 1779 in Northampton NC. {Halifax County}with the same will. GEORGE and PATIENCE sold their home plantation at Elk Marsh Swamp on Nov.30, 1776. George and Patience then purchased a 300 acre tract near Beaverdam. GEORGE would be at least 70 years of age in 1773 when the will was written and over 77 when he died. If John was 22 in 1773, PATIENCE would have been born at least by 1735. Could it be that there was 33 years difference in the ages of GEORGE and PATIENCE ? On the other extreme assuming WILLIAM is 18 to 20 years of age in 1873. He would have been born in 1856 - 1853, when GEORGE was 51 to 55 years of age. I think PATIENCE was a younger 2nd wife, and WILLIAM a child of that marriage, GEORGE wrote his will protecting his son's welfare in case he died and she remarried.That will Jan 1773 was the will that was probated, we do not know the date of probate. Last record of George is another deed he acknowledged in court I think it was 1776-8 or so. A new will book was begun in 1782 by a new clerk. All we know for sure is George's will is in the last of the earlier wills before the new book was started.
2. WILLIAM and his mother PATIENCE did not sell the remainder of GEORGE's land in Halifax County until the 1790's. The 1790 census of Halifax County [remember that census is actually dated 1786] shows a PATIENCE PACE household with a male under 21. PATIENCE if born in 1735 would have been 55 at the youngest or maybe 78 assuming that PATIENCE was only 10 years younger than GEORGE. PATIENCE would be 78 in 1790. If PATIENCE was 78 she would have been in her late 50's when WILLIAM was born. [can't be] If this is PATIENCE son WILLIAM, he would have been born between 1770 and 1765 when GEORGE was 63 to 68 years of age. This male may or may not be WILLIAM Sr. or could be another son, or grandson since her son John was over 21 in 1773. Our WILLIAM was in Franklin County in 17903. Our WILLIAM PACE was living in Franklin County NC by 1775/76.
He and wife Sisley/Sesley sold the land Sisley obtained from her father in 1775. This land was located less than a mile above Fishing Creek in Halifax County, much closer to the land of John and Richard Pace in present Nash County than the George and Patience Pace land in Halifax.
Richard Pace - Prince George Co VA - b ca 1713 - d Edgecombe Co NC 1769
NOTE: The Parents of this Richard Pace b1688 - d after 1728 married ??Sarah Woodlief???
1. On September 11,1759 a Richard Pace of Martins Bramdon Parish in
Prince George Co. VA. purchased 150 acres in Edgecombe Co. NC on Fishing Creek, the east side of Beaverdam. Swamp. In January 1760 JOHN PACE purchased 190 acres in the same area. In 1760 a JOHN and RICHARD PACE sold 14 acres in Bramdon Parish in Prince George Co. VA. About 1731 RICHARD married ELIZABETH -- ? 3 RICHARD and ELIZABETH had at least 3 Children- 2 daughters ANN and AMY