-----------Pace Society main page|DNA main page|RESULTS main page-Frederick Pace of Wales descendents.The DNA of this group of Paces does not match any of the others. Family tradition and strong evidence indicates that they are the descendents of a Frederick Pace of Wales who came to this country with sons William, John, and Dempsey, in 1768. These Paces moved to Clarke County, Alabama, and then spread out from there. There is no documentary evidence for the Welsh origin of Frederick. There were Paces living in Shropshire and neighboring counties on the border of present Wales, and the Welsh border was "fuzzy" and moved over time, so Welsh origin did not necessarily mean the Wales of today. To see the evidence for the ancestry of these Paces, click here. To see the lineage submitted by a donor, click the kit number. Marker colors: FTDNA shows some markers in red to indicate a higher frequency of mutation in these alleles. This can help in dividing groups into sub groups. With the limited results on this page, this feature is not at present useful, but may become useful as we add more results.
Conclusions: DNA shows that this is a distinct line and NOT related to the other Paces in the study. Frederick Pace was said to have three sons, William, John, and Dempsey, and two daughters, unnamed. It is significant that we now have DNA from all three lines and they agree that this is a distinct line.Kits 8025, 31125, and 32112 are father, son, and uncle, therefore constitute a single lineage. Their family records show descent from the above John through his son Thomas Jefferson Pace. Kit 73852's family records show descent from this same John through his son William. Kit 113987 descends from the William who is believed to be a brother of John. 126591 is a descendent of the third brother, Dempsey. Therefore, we have distinct sets of records only one generation removed from the common ancestor, believed to be Frederick (although there is some difference of opinion on this; see the explanation here. It appears that we have at least 36/37 of the common ancestor's DNA, and possibly 37/37 since two are in perfect match. The three differences in 32112 are not as significant as it might seem. All three are in fast moving markers, and 464c and 464d count as only one difference. So the genetic difference is 2, which in fast moving markers can happen.GERMAN PACESwho derive their name from Pees. Explanation: in German, Pees would be pronounced almost exactly like Pace, the double e taking a sound like a long a. Therefore, in the US it was natural for them to change the spelling to the American way. They are not related to the English Paces. This group has traced ancestry to Baumholder, Germany. NOTE: Donor 47110's ancestors did NOT change their name to Pace but but suspects he has Baumholder origins. 24/25 match with 2053 supports this conclusion. US origins of this group are mostly Pennsylvania. Donor 12280 is surnamed Smith but matches more closely with 20553 than with anyone in the Smith study. Click 12280 to go to his Donors page listing for further comment. To see the lineage submitted by a donor, click the kit number. Marker colors: FTDNA shows some markers in red to indicate a higher frequency of mutation in these
alleles. This can help in dividing groups into sub groups. An example of this is
seen in donors 6280, 9852, and 6711.
As expected, the chart shows that the German Paces are unrelated to the English Paces. It is not surprising that they are in Haplogroup I, which includes northern German and Scandinavian populations. See Note. The kit with Smith ancestry did not match with anyone in the Smith study but matched with our Pees-Pace group so he thinks he may be a Pace. Pennsylvania origin makes that possible. Three differenes are in volatile markers. The Kit numbered Ancestry1 tested DNA with Ancestry.com so the markers are not exactly the same but match with German Paces is obvious and his lineage is from Pennsylvania, which makes sense. Also, see below--the extra markers match 10/11 with the SMGF submissions. Kits with SMGF designations tested with Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation. Their lineages are only available in abbreviated form. All four descend from Johan Michael Pace/Pees as does 20553 so his lineage would be relevant here. They have good matches to the 37th marker with markers 31-35 not tested by SMGF. Other markers tested by SMGF but not by FTDNA are shown below.
Italian PacesThe Pace surname apparently originated separately in England and Italy. There is no evidence of a relationship. Pace in Italian (pronounced "pah-chee") means "peace". The name is common in Italy and there are numerous coats of arms granted to Paces there. The two entries beginning with N are from the national geographic study. Five differences out of 12 indicate that these two individuals are not closely related. To date, the study has not received lineages from these donors. 95418 is a Sicilian Pace. Again there is not match with the other Italian Paces. This study welcomes Paces of Italian lineage.
95418 has tested for 37 markers. The remaining markers are below.
This is a new group as
of February, 2007. As of March 3, 2007, there is one Pais applicant. The name Pais (variations Paes, Payes) is said to be of
Sephardic
origin. This is a term applied to the Jews who lived in the Basque area of the
Pyrenees, most of whom left during the Inquisition. Some may have converted (at
least nominally) to Christianity. We welcome submissions from persons of this
surname.
NOTE: There was a surprise when 84728's results came through. There was an 11/12 match with 14944 who has a lineage only back to his great grandfather. However, when the 25 and 37 marker tests came through, there were so many differences that there was no match. The 25 marker match was closest to Antony Pace of London, but even here there was a genetic distance of 4, so the match is not significant. It would appear at this point that the Pais surname is not related to the Paces in the database. This donor has upgraded to the 37 marker test; extended results are below.
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